Takahama Trainwatcher Posted February 5, 2017 Share Posted February 5, 2017 Yeah, looks like the loco type. I think I saw on youtube somewhere a DCC installed one that had a board replacement, but can't find it now. A couple of other videos of interest, though: This clip gives a good view of the information sheet it comes with; I couldn't see anything about DCC there (that sheet noramlly makes it clear when it takes EM13). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9IWKB0sqh7Y And this video at 2:11 looks very EM13 unfriendly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7Cjm0phcmg Link to comment
velotrain Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 here's a good overview of the Tsurumi line and her branches https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Linemap_of_Tsurumi_Line.svg Looks like a whole lot of abandoned track from de-railed industry. Link to comment
Gordon Werner Posted February 6, 2017 Share Posted February 6, 2017 NGI has posted photos of upcoming KATO releases: http://www.jp-ngauge.info/ngi/2017/02/kato2017-196c.html 2 Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted February 8, 2017 Share Posted February 8, 2017 Thanks for sharing the info! The upcoming model of one of my favourite locos, the C11, looks quite promising. It´´s on my list. Link to comment
marknewton Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Looks like a whole lot of abandoned track from de-railed industry. What does the caption on the map say? It could be either private sidings or abandoned track. Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
marknewton Posted February 11, 2017 Share Posted February 11, 2017 Actually the Okawa branch would only need one as the line was set up for single train working...So you'll need one 12 series, one de10, some tank and some grain cars to fully model the Okawa branch in the late jnr times. Only one 12 series needed? Don't think so. If Kato produce these, there's no way I'm only buying one of them! :) All the best, Mark. Link to comment
velotrain Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 EDIT: Okawa station itself would make a great shelf layout - a simple yard, a big building behind it as a backdrop, and look closely at what's parked down the back... I've been looking into the Tsurumi Rinko Railway, the Okawa station area, and the Nisshin Flour mill - which is seen in the background of the faded photo that Mark linked to. My interest was spurred by another photo, taken in 1996 - the year before the private line from Okawa station was closed. I wish there was a satellite view from that era, so I could see where the tracks curving to the right are headed. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/travelersjapan/imgs/3/f/3f718117.jpg Regarding the KuMoHa 12, here is an image of the last run of one of these on this line. http://hamachi-dori.blogspot.com/2016/06/12.html Other photos on this blog show massive crowds at several stations for the final run. http://hamachi-dori.blogspot.com/2016_06_01_archive.html Here is a professorial, somewhat romantic tribute to the DD13 and Hoki 2200 combo. https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/mohane5812001/55282272.html&prev=search A painting of a similar scene. http://blog-imgs-60.fc2.com/m/i/t/mitsuka115jnr/P4110002.jpg And a crisply-framed B&W image, taken from about the same place as the photo Mark posted - but not using a tele lens. http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/yuiccyan1964/GALLERY/show_image_v2.html?id=http%3A%2F%2Fblog-001.west.edge.storage-yahoo.jp%2Fres%2Fblog-8e-51%2Fyuiccyan1964%2Ffolder%2F1465100%2F95%2F42229095%2Fimg_1%3F1164276533&i=1 2 Link to comment
railsquid Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I've been looking into the Tsurumi Rinko Railway, the Okawa station area, and the Nisshin Flour mill - which is seen in the background of the faded photo that Mark linked to. My interest was spurred by another photo, taken in 1996 - the year before the private line from Okawa station was closed. I wish there was a satellite view from that era, so I could see where the tracks curving to the right are headed. Google Earth (the application, not Google Maps the website) provides historical aerial views of Japan going back a few decades, though coverage is patchy. Somewhere the Japanese government also has (had) a website with historical aerial survey images but it's a pain to find and use. http://livedoor.blogimg.jp/travelersjapan/imgs/3/f/3f718117.jpg Looks like a model at first glance. Easiest industrial backscene ever :D 2 Link to comment
velotrain Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Thanks squid - I did try the "way back" process, but either there's no coverage there, or I wasn't doing it right. Maybe I'll try contacting Nisshin and see if they have a company historian . . . . BTW - Tokyo Bay is just to the other side of all those silos. Based on what I see, it's really just east of the Tsurumi municipal border, as is the Okawa station. Actually - the silos would be the end-scene in my thinking. I was also toying around with the thought of it being 2-3 T-Trak long modules, with a subtle hole cut at the bottom of two silos for continuous running. If anyone is familiar with grain handling in Japan - I was thinking that after dumping it down from the Hoki's (unless it can be syphoned out from the top?), it was sent up to the overhead walkway above the unloading (open) shed, which connects with the walkway crossing in front of the silos? If not, I don't comprehend why they'd need such a wide walkway over that structure. It also looks like there could be a loading dock at the building to the right of the unloading shed, as there's definitely a fixed canopy there. It could be where bags for the flour, etc. were brought in by boxcar. One possible issue to it being a separate module is the lack of variety in the rolling stock. Extending it back to Okawa station would take a fair bit of real estate, even in N scale. Doing it in HO would make operation (shunting with Kadee's) easier, and allow use of the better looking HO Kato Hoki's - and also the KuMoHa 12, but taking even yet more space. I'm also wondering about the strings of Hoki's left at the station. Are they loads that there wasn't room for at the plant, or empties that were picked up and temporarily dropped there - for whatever reason? However, it is a very tempting scene . . . . 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I think this is the one squid was talking about http://airphoto.gis.go.jp/ http://mapps.gsi.go.jp/ Jeff 3 Link to comment
velotrain Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 Both of those bomb out when I try to translate. I've also tried History in Google Earth, but without luck. The first link takes me here - http://airphoto.gis.go.jp/aplis/Agreement.jsp Link to comment
cteno4 Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I thin you can get to the second link thru the first link. I can get the map app thru the first on the iPad and zoom in and open Picts from dots on the map. It looks like the first link can take you thru some of the features of the system, but didn't try to translate them. Jeff Link to comment
velotrain Posted February 12, 2017 Share Posted February 12, 2017 I searched and found a Google function called Maps Mania, which allows you to view side by side a historic Japanese map with the current Google version. It's kind of fun, as moving or resizing the historic map causes the modern one to follow in kind. http://googlemapsmania.blogspot.com/2013/09/the-beauty-in-japans-historical-maps.html I was able to see the location on a 1965-68 map, and it shows two curved tracks, but there is no way to know what they were specifically used for. http://ktgis.net/kjmapw/kjmapw.html?lat=35.49555177172482&lng=139.71256943612673&zoom=16&dataset=tokyo50&age=4&map1type=roadmap&map2type=roadmap&dual=true&mapOpacity=10&altitudeOpacity=4 As you progress through the later maps you can progressively see more and more industrial sidings disappear - and, the earliest map shows the area when it was still the sea. The Maps Mania home page says " you can also select to compare the historical map with some historical aerial imagery ", but it's not clear how you do that, and I was unable to translate my results screen - which likely would have helped. 3 Link to comment
Suica Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 (edited) Kato 07/17 releases are here! Wide View Shinano is a MUST BUY for me! The Nagano 211 is quite interesting as well~ Edited March 3, 2017 by Suica 3 Link to comment
SirYamanote Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Looks like that 3,000Y is only for the sound box? Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Kato 07/17 releases are here! Wide View Shinano is a MUST BUY for me! The Nagano 211 is quite interesting as well~ Oh wow! Kato is really eating into the Greenmax market here with the Keikyū 2100 type Sky Blue Train! :confused3: Now it's just waiting until they start releasing other Keikyū trains... 1 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Kato 07/17 releases are here! Wide View Shinano is a MUST BUY for me! The Nagano 211 is quite interesting as well~ Is that a re-release of the Doctor yellow 4 car set? Anyone know how I can pre-order this? Link to comment
katoftw Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 You can pre-order it through Hobby Search, AmiAmi, Loco1Hobby, Modeltrainplus or any other of your normal retailers that do Kato sales. 1 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Kato 07/17 releases are here! Wide View Shinano is a MUST BUY for me! The Nagano 211 is quite interesting as well~ Buddy you are so fast... Both the sets you listed are a must get for me! Although I have the MA 383 Shinano, the Kato one is much superior, for its tilting mechanism and closer couplers, along with a much firmer look and printed destination boards... tasty! Just one query... it doesn't look like the 4-car add-on set had a motor? The MA one has 6-car basic set, 4-car add-on set with motor and 2-car add-on set without... Although I also have the Tomix 211 Nagano color, I don't have the 6-car set formation so this is a great buy, coming from Kato and all! Is that a re-release of the Doctor yellow 4 car set? Anyone know how I can pre-order this? Yes it is. A re-release along with its 3-car basic set and 4-car add on set. You can pre-order from HS now (already updated: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182068 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10182070 Or like katoftw mentioned, any other online retailer once they become available in a few days time 2 Link to comment
Densha Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I really need to resist getting a C12. 1 Link to comment
IST Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 Looks like that 3,000Y is only for the sound box? I think it is just for the card into the sound box. Link to comment
railsquid Posted March 3, 2017 Share Posted March 3, 2017 I think this is the one squid was talking about http://airphoto.gis.go.jp/ http://mapps.gsi.go.jp/ Jeff Yum, dems the ones. Need to bookmark those... 2 Link to comment
Suica Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 Although I also have the Tomix 211 Nagano color, I don't have the 6-car set formation so this is a great buy, coming from Kato and all! Now that you mention it, I didn't notice it was a 6 car set. I only need 3. :P Link to comment
westfalen Posted March 4, 2017 Share Posted March 4, 2017 I really need to resist getting a C12. I need to resist getting a second C12. 2 Link to comment
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