Kamome Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 I checked: My E4 does not have another shaft or opening for a second powered bogie. The bogie on the other side does have the shaft and opening for it. All bogies look exactly the same, too. I also found out that my version is from 2012, according to the box it came in. Hi Yavianice My kato E4 was bought as a starter set in about 2009. The motor car only has one driven bogie which is different to all the other Kato shinkansens I own. The power car on the E4 is a fair bit heavier than other models and I've not had an issue with traction. I wonder whether this was done due to the off centre motor to allow the lower deck to be modelled effectively. 1 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 This is all very tempting and making me very much tempted to get a Kato E4 Max even though I already have Tomix made E4 Max in both colors ... Link to comment
Yavianice Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 This is all very tempting and making me very much tempted to get a Kato E4 Max even though I already have Tomix made E4 Max in both colors ... Why get a KATO E4 then? What is the benefit of having a KATO E4 over the TOMIX version? While the KATO E4 is very tempting, I am waiting patiently for TOMIX to release some kind of special edition of the E4 at some point as the E4 will be retired next year. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Why get a KATO E4 then? What is the benefit of having a KATO E4 over the TOMIX version? While the KATO E4 is very tempting, I am waiting patiently for TOMIX to release some kind of special edition of the E4 at some point as the E4 will be retired next year. Well, there are just a few gadgets on the Kato that is missing from the Tomix, but the number one loveable factor is that the Kato motor car for the E4 looks EXACTLY the same as the other cars; i.e. the motor is hidden! Tomix ones got a really ugly motor block that can be seen from the lower deck... http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10296026/20/6 Tomix power car http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10049308/20/5 Kato power car... That huge block kinda gets to me long enough when I look at the Kato E4... Then there is the printed destination signs, and the openable front coupler like the real thing. While it is a huge hussle to actually open and close that coupler cover, it looks REALLY good when opened, far better than the Tomix one: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10049308/10/1 Kato openable front coupler Tomix did do a special color E4 Max that was only sold in Tomix World at Omiya, the E4 Max with the Ibis logo: http://www.tomixworld.jp/original.html But other than that logo, nothing's much different from the regular one... I do hope to see a special painting one on the E4 max, but the only one that is 'special' will most probably be the Pokémon paining: Original video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltu1QjUhhqs by youtube user: ShinjukuJogakuen And I haven't seen another livery for the E4 Max... Edited April 21, 2017 by JR 500系 1 Link to comment
Yavianice Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 Well, there are just a few gadgets on the Kato that is missing from the Tomix, but the number one loveable factor is that the Kato motor car for the E4 looks EXACTLY the same as the other cars; i.e. the motor is hidden! Tomix ones got a really ugly motor block that can be seen from the lower deck... http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10296026/20/6 Tomix power car http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10049308/20/5 Kato power car... That huge block kinda gets to me long enough when I look at the Kato E4... Then there is the printed destination signs, and the openable front coupler like the real thing. While it is a huge hussle to actually open and close that coupler cover, it looks REALLY good when opened, far better than the Tomix one: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10049308/10/1 Kato openable front coupler Tomix did do a special color E4 Max that was only sold in Tomix World at Omiya, the E4 Max with the Ibis logo: http://www.tomixworld.jp/original.html But other than that logo, nothing's much different from the regular one... I do hope to see a special painting one on the E4 max, but the only one that is 'special' will most probably be the Pokémon paining: Original video here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ltu1QjUhhqs by youtube user: ShinjukuJogakuen And I haven't seen another livery for the E4 Max... I doubt they will do the Pokemon livery due to licensing. Wow, you are right about the power car. Though maybe TOMIX will change that in a new release. I will wait patiently... Link to comment
railsquid Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 FWIW, some pictures of a Kato E4 power car with the body removed here: http://blog.goo.ne.jp/norio721_001/e/ab2e1ab521a8982114f47b6fed293218 1 Link to comment
nah00 Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 While the KATO E4 is very tempting, I am waiting patiently for TOMIX to release some kind of special edition of the E4 at some point as the E4 will be retired next year. Same here. Plus my E3 is Tomix so there's that too. I already have the destination board stickers from Geomatrix that just got rereleased so I already them for the E4 when it is rereleased. Just hope it's in the old color, I don't care much for the color scheme on the new one. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted April 23, 2017 Share Posted April 23, 2017 Announced for MoRaCo 2017: https://www.moraco.jp/blank-1 MaYu 50 2186 (@¥3,000). A coupler car in the Resort Express Yu livery, mainly used for hauling empty stock. A must have for service runs! Link to comment
westfalen Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) Announced for MoRaCo 2017: https://www.moraco.jp/blank-1 MaYu 50 2186 (@¥3,000). A coupler car in the Resort Express Yu livery, mainly used for hauling empty stock. A must have for service runs! So that's what that is. Saw it parked at Mito last September. Edited April 24, 2017 by westfalen 1 Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 (edited) So that's what that is. Saw it parked at Mito last September. DSC_5033.JPG It's main purpose was to haul the Resort Express Yū over non electrified lines, but due to the limited runs in that kind of fashion, this car sees much more use as a medium between Janney and Shibata equipped rolling stock. It's a weird, but neat little car, but it would find a purpose on any JR East layout, as IIRC it has traversed almost the entire network (if not everything). Edited April 24, 2017 by Kabutoni Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It doesn't look like it will be made available through the common retailers access... maybe only at Kato Hobby Centre? Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 It doesn't look like it will be made available through the common retailers access... maybe only at Kato Hobby Centre? For now MoRaCo only: https://www.moraco.jp/ Link to comment
nah00 Posted April 24, 2017 Share Posted April 24, 2017 I really hope this shows up as a normal or even limited release at some point especially since I model JR East. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Usui Tōge specials announced because of the 20 years anniversary of the closure of the line: http://www.katomodels.com/product/poster/files/2017_9b.pdf Also, more interesting releases here: http://www.katomodels.com/product/poster/files/2017_9a.pdf Especially the M250 Series and the KiHa58 soundcard (DMH17 engine sound) will probably be in high demand! The little S124 dummy railway crossing also looks nice. 1 Link to comment
NB1231 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Usui Tōge specials announced because of the 20 years anniversary of the closure of the line: http://www.katomodels.com/product/poster/files/2017_9b.pdf Also, more interesting releases here: http://www.katomodels.com/product/poster/files/2017_9a.pdf Especially the M250 Series and the KiHa58 soundcard (DMH17 engine sound) will probably be in high demand! The little S124 dummy railway crossing also looks nice. The M250 is back! Dang! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment
serotta1972 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Another wish come true! Been holding out getting other freight cars because I want the the M250. Link to comment
keiichi77 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Well, there goes the remaining money in my wallet M250......droool Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Interesting and attractive M250! But I will NOT go into freight... no no no... 1 Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Interesting and attractive M250! But I will NOT go into freight... no no no... It's an EMU in a semi-fixed consist with a fixed type of container, so it's basically the same as a passenger train. No need for extra engines, wagons, etc. when you have one. 1 Link to comment
katoftw Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Interesting and attractive M250! But I will NOT go into freight... no no no... You said that about Kyushu also. I give it a week and you will have buckled... 3 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 It's an EMU in a semi-fixed consist with a fixed type of container, so it's basically the same as a passenger train. No need for extra engines, wagons, etc. when you have one. You said that about Kyushu also. I give it a week and you will have buckled... It's not easy to be firm when you have good friends around ~~~ 1 Link to comment
Khaul Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 Interesting and attractive M250! But I will NOT go into freight... no no no... Why not...? Link to comment
Kiha66 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) Whew, EF63, DD51, D51, 12 and 115 series, ED62, M250 and a new crossing! Guess I should start selling off my other scale models, September is really guna hurt my wallet. Almost 20000 yen for a 6 car 115 set seems a little steep though. Hasn't 498 already been released? Whats the difference with this new D51 model, as it seems it has a new product number. Also what does the text say on the new crossing, it looks pretty nice. Edit:Didnt see the second page, an EF62, Brown EF63, 489 and 189? Wow, kato went all out on this release. Edited May 11, 2017 by Kiha66 Link to comment
Kamome Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 September has all gone a bit Usui Pass. I will have to get a couple more EF63s as i love these things pushing my 189 series Asama around. Nice to see them finally from Kato in brown and I'll probably look at getting the grade up Asama as well. Be interested to see how these differ as I own 2 different EF63 models and an EF62 from kato. I hope they will model the radio mast as this wasn't on either of the kato EF63 models. I also really want the ED62 set for my Iida Line fleet. Looks like selling a kidney might have to be an option. 1 Link to comment
nah00 Posted May 11, 2017 Share Posted May 11, 2017 (edited) The new crossing are nice, they can use a bit of touching up to make them look better but they're still better than the old crossing piece and (unless I'm reading it wrong) you can clip the old wooden track piece in instead of the new concrete one. Would be nice if it came with the overhead bar though for the clearance check under the wires but that will be easy enough to add. Edited May 11, 2017 by nah00 Link to comment
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