miyakoji Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 The Japanese wikipedia says they'll expand it up to 12 cars when there are a lot of passengers. I didn't know they were so flexible with consists. Link to comment
NuclearErick Posted March 5, 2013 Share Posted March 5, 2013 2013 July - RE-Release 92796 and 92795 400系 Old and New Painting finally i will get mine Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) 2013 July - RE-Release 92796 and 92795 400系 Old and New Painting finally i will get mine That's good news! The 400 series is a bullet train most often left out as it bears uncanning resemblance to the E3 Tsubasa counterpart... This news made me regret buying the KATO E3 Komachi... As i understand for connectivity, Tomix cant connect to Kato train hence all trains to be coupled together will have to be in Kato too for me... Such as E2, E4, E3, 200 and the 400... To make things worse i havent seen 400 made by Kato and the E2 and E4 are VERY expensive for the Kato, as compared to it's Tomix counterparts... Edited March 6, 2013 by JR500 のぞみ Link to comment
Densha Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 And I think (but am not entirely sure) that the Kato 200 series can't be coupled to other Shinkansen series. I've seen pictures of a 200 series and 400 series coupled together, a very nice combination of both old and new Shinkansen series. Link to comment
keitaro Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Densha nice train in the Sig one of my favourite, I think the Tomix 200 can be coupled, one due this month. Only some series 200`s had the nose coupler K sets i beleive. Im pretty sure the earlier pointy nose certinly did not. I think kato is based on the older sets Link to comment
Darklighter Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 the E2 and E4 are VERY expensive for the Kato, as compared to it's Tomix counterparts... The E4 costs the same and the Kato E2 is a bit cheaper than the Tomix E2. Link to comment
Densha Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 (edited) Densha nice train in the Sig one of my favourite, http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/7134-train-signature-images/ I think the Tomix 200 can be coupled, one due this month. Only some series 200`s had the nose coupler K sets i beleive. Im pretty sure the earlier pointy nose certinly did not. I think kato is based on the older sets Prototype: Tomix: http://kq2100.blog110.fc2.com/blog-entry-409.html & Edited March 6, 2013 by Densha Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 And yes they can be coupled! Watch this very hyped video, previously posted before. Notice at 2:33 when the 200 series zoom past... And guess who's following behind! I'm guessing both of Kato, since i have yet to see a Tomix 200 series being released... Or am i missing something here? Link to comment
Densha Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 @JR500 Considering the typical Tomix diaphragms I'm sure ones in my post are Tomix models. The video you posted is too blurry to see it, and I don't see a 400 series but a 200+E3 Komachi at 2:33. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 Ahah! Now i see what you meant Densha... Guess we were on the wrong frequency~~ I was thinking 200 + E3, as i think that is the correct configration in real life too... I'm not sure if there was an actual 200 + 400 ? 400 + E4 i'm sure there is, and E3 Tusbasa+ E4 Max and E3 Komachi + E2 Hayate are certain.. Thus i would need in my case all Kato models to connect to my Kato E3 Komachi, so that i can even make an incorrect configration run. Link to comment
Densha Posted March 6, 2013 Share Posted March 6, 2013 As I posted three posts back, you can see a 200+400 in this video: (I wonder why the shortened youtube links show smaller video) Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Ooppss sorry my bad Densha.. Didnt watch the video to the end to see the beautiful coupling process of the 200 + 400! Intersting combination indeed! Hi Darklighter: Haven't really gone into detailed calculations for them, hence allow me to make some computations here for comparison of the Kato and Tomix E2 + E3 Komachi and the E4 + E3 Tusbasa: On Hobbysearch: KATO [Limited Edition] Series E2 Tohoku Shinkansen `Hayate` Full Restoration 1st Train (10-Car Set) (Model Train) come with nose coupler to couple with E3 Komachi = 21,6000 yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10170384 10-278 Kato E2 Hayate Basic 4-car set (11,700yen) + 10-279 Kato E2 Hayate Add-on 6-car set (9180yen) = 20,880yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10060220 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10047009 10-221 Kato E3 Komachi 6-car set = 15,300yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10060220 Taking the cheapest option for comparison = 20,880 + 15,300 KATO's total for E2 Hayate + E3 Komachi combination = 36,180yen TOMIX 92360 Tomix E2 Hayate Basic 3-car set = 8910yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10112109 92361 Tomix E2 Hayate Add-on 4-car set A = 8280yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10112110 92362 Tomix E2 Hayate Add-on 3-car Set B = 5580yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10112111 Total for Tomix E2 Hayate = 22,770yen 92803 Tomix E3 Komachi 6-car set = 17,820yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10097853 TOMIX's total for E2 Hayate + E3 Komachi combination = 40,590yen Darklighter, you are RIGHT! Kato IS Cheaper! KATO 10-292 Kato E4 MAX Basic 4-car set = 11,250yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10049308 10-293 Kato E4 Max Add-On 4-car set = 7650yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10049309 10-222 Kato E3 Tsubasa 7-car set = 16,470yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10081531 KATO's total for E4 MAX + E3 Tusbasa combination = 35,370yen TOMIX 92765 Tomix E4 MAX Basic 3-car set = 8640yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10044639 92766 Tomix E4 MAX Add-on 3-car set A = 6750yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10044640 92767 Tomix E4 MAX Add-on 2-car set B = 3510yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10044641 92804 Tomix E3 Tsubasa 7-car set = 19,620yen http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10097854 TOMIX's total for E4 MAX + E3 Tusbasa combination = 38,520yen Kato's combination is STILL Chaper! Interesting exercise and good to know ~ Link to comment
Densha Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Kato's combination is STILL Chaper! And can be even cheaper if you buy at other shops than HS. :) Link to comment
Guest Closed Account 1 Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Does the Tomix accept LED interior lighting and drop in DCC Decoders? Link to comment
keitaro Posted March 7, 2013 Share Posted March 7, 2013 Led yes but not DCC. However its only use full if you are doing digitrax DCC or don't care on brand of decoder. Ie there are may different patented DCC function the kato/digitrax won't do that another brands might. Would be nice to see nem decoders sockets most DCC companies have a nem decoder series. I'm digitrax myself still there's many out there who are not. Kato keep their price down by making their own form factor. So does that mean some one gets royalties from manufacturers who use NEM? Link to comment
E6系 Posted March 8, 2013 Share Posted March 8, 2013 Hello Mr JR500, Remember also that most retailers are cheaper than HS. HS charge a premium for foreign customer. Link to comment
KenS Posted March 9, 2013 Share Posted March 9, 2013 Kato keep their price down by making their own form factor. So does that mean some one gets royalties from manufacturers who use NEM? I suspect it's more that Kato wanted to hide the decoders, and even the NEM651 would add bulk that makes sandwiching the decoder inside the limited space between the floor and the underfloor difficult. Also keep in mind that Kato introduced this form-factor a number of years ago, and decoders have gotten smaller since then. You might be able to fit a NEM-equipped 11mm decoder under the floor today, but an 18-25mm decoder would have been more problematic. But I agree that it would be nice to have choice, and a socket for a plug-in decoder. Link to comment
Ochanomizu Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Hello Mr Keitaro, Kato decoders are economical because of the limited features. For example, 29-351 EM13 is the decoder for use in the motor car of the EMU, yet it does not have function for in-car lighting. As such, two decoders are required in the one car for DCC motor and lighting control. The same is true in cab cars with FL12 decoders. Also, Kato decoders are compatible with Digitrax system. I think many brand of decoder will fit within the Kato decoder space. Link to comment
KenS Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I think many brand of decoder will fit within the Kato decoder space. Nobody makes drop-in replacements for Kato's decoders, not even NGDCC. You could probably fit a small decoder in the EM13 space and wire it in, if you really needed some capability the EM13 lacked. For all its small size, though, the EM13 is surprisingly well-equipped with features. The only thing I can think of it lacking is RailComm, since it's made by Digitrax and they don't like RailComm. Nothing I know of would fit in the slot for the cab decoder (it's tiny), and the interior light decoder is basically replacing the lightboard (as I understand from photos; I've never owned any of those decoders) and so you can't simply replace it, although you could wire a small decoder to the lightboard, and tape it to the car floor, where it would be inconspicuous (but still visible). Link to comment
Guest Closed Account 1 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Kato decoder thread http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/6078-trouble-with-em13-and-fl12s/ There's a link on how to tweak the CVs. Ok back to Tomix topics. Link to comment
NuclearErick Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 finally the confirmation of E5系 from Tomix there are few stores u can Pre-Order right now AUGUST release date 98910 - complete 10 car set 92502 - 6 cars 92501 - add 4 cars ah and the 98 907 6系 from Tomix too was postponted from April to JUNE Link to comment
Kabutoni Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Awwwjeez. I guess Tomix is reverting back to doing terrible 80s liveries. The 169 Series 'Kamoshika' 'Misuzu' livery does not speak to the imagination, but rather harkens back to the early days of the JR era, full of strange and uninteresting liveries. http://www.tomytec.co.jp/tomix/products/kettei/pdf/20130404-2.pdf Link to comment
Densha Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Seriously, what is this thing: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10222623 A bus turntable? Why'd you need that? A bus is able to turn itself. Link to comment
Darklighter Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Awwwjeez. I guess Tomix is reverting back to doing terrible 80s liveries. The 169 Series 'Kamoshika' 'Misuzu' livery does not speak to the imagination, but rather harkens back to the early days of the JR era, full of strange and uninteresting liveries. http://www.tomytec.co.jp/tomix/products/kettei/pdf/20130404-2.pdf I find strange liveries more interesting than the usual liveries with horizontal stripes... Link to comment
keitaro Posted April 6, 2013 Share Posted April 6, 2013 Seriously, what is this thing: http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10222623 A bus turntable? Why'd you need that? A bus is able to turn itself. Its for end to end operation so you can have a road follow the line And turn around and go back. Its very clever kind of like a dc auto reverser but for buses. You need alot of space to make a loop at each end so this saves you space. Link to comment
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