bill937ca Posted October 8, 2009 Share Posted October 8, 2009 You may find this interesting. A E655 coach in a E257 train. http://heppoko.blog.hobidas.com/archives/article/59438.html Link to comment
Bernard Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 That is bizarre looking! (With all the new release Bill, I thought you were posting that Kato is releasing it. Darn.) Link to comment
Krackel Hopper Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The lady of the house says this paint job shouldn't be too hard to replicate.. two words.. nail polish. Apparently it could also be done in a flat color using a nail polish pearl top coat.. Link to comment
Bernard Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 The lady of the house says this paint job shouldn't be too hard to replicate.. two words.. nail polish. Apparently it could also be done in a flat color using a nail polish pearl top coat.. Ask the "lady of the house" if airbrush pearl colors would have the same effect. Here is a link to the airbrush paints, the pearl colors are in the middle of the page: http://www.dixieart.com/Createx_Pearl_and_Fluorescent_Airbrush_Colors.html Link to comment
Krackel Hopper Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Ask the "lady of the house" if airbrush pearl colors would have the same effect. Here is a link to the airbrush paints, the pearl colors are in the middle of the page: http://www.dixieart.com/Createx_Pearl_and_Fluorescent_Airbrush_Colors.html After taking a look, she said most likely no. That those paints will give you more of an "arts & crafts" sorta look instead of a sleek car (of train in this case) paint job. You can use nail polish in an airbrush though.. that's how a lot of those nail salon's do some of their fancy work is airbrushing with nail polish. I actually just acquired an airbrush from one of her friends (who used to use it for nails) but I haven't given it a shot yet. I have a feeling, once I start airbrushing I am going to love building kits even more. From what I've seen/read, once you get the hang of it.. it's both easier and provides a much nicer finish than trying to use a brush.. but I'm getting off track.. nail polish and airbrushes apparently go hand-in-hand.. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 More views of the train. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Diary of the date of this shoot November 12, 2008 http://blog.livedoor.jp/nyan2diesel/archives/51345481.html The E655 system operated by the Royal Train. To visit the Tsukuba Space Center, and the Emperor and Empress seemed to go over toーtour visits the king and queen of Spain. Outward through the Joban Line, Tsukuba Express Homeward through. End station will be increased security along the route, trying to shoot iron Wota Royal Train was checked baggage. Location: Kameari Station Joban Line, Tsukuba Express Line Misato Chuo Station. Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Someone really has to do one of these. Link to comment
westfalen Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Would there be some sort of protocol in effect that would prohibit model manufacturers from doing the current royal train? Kato and Micro-Ace have done the previous one, would it have still been in use when the models were done? Link to comment
jappomania Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Would there be some sort of protocol in effect that would prohibit model manufacturers from doing the current royal train? Kato and Micro-Ace have done the previous one, would it have still been in use when the models were done? Hi! for industrial production normally you need the permission from the company that retain royalty (JR or manifacturer like Hitachi, Kawasaki, etc...), for example for the last ETR 500 in HO from ACME, have permission to BREDA (industrial manifacturer) and obviously it's not gratis ;-) if you want you can build yourself one E655 but the base for kitbashing is KATO 257 (not so simple to find used and maybe junk to be low expensive) you need this book that contain all instruction (in japanese but with a lot of photo and drawings) http://www.hobbyjapan.co.jp/tmm5/ this is one example... http://ftfactory1993.cool.ne.jp/usr/bin/perl/diarypro/diary.cgi?no=88 ciao Massimo Link to comment
inobu Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 After seeing the videos I can see the interest in this series trains. I'm sure if would be a hit during a show especially if it pops up from time to time. Inobu A little O/T In regards to the airbrush you have to watch out for a few things. The compressor and the type of brush. I did the same thing in that I acquired by first airbrush and compressor from a salon but it proved to be ineffective. For our needs we need a brush that produces a super fine mist. With that fine mist you need a compressor that has a tank with enough air capacity to support it. Most salons go with the cheaper type systems. Needless to say a thousand dollars later I have the right stuff to paint the way I want. A fine mist is needed so you don't cover the detail. The paint layer has to be in microns. A N-scale rivet on a panel can be .002 of a inch or .06 mm. You can cover that with a thick layer of paint. A diaphragm compressor creates pulses of paint which shows up on the finish so you don't want that. I ended up giving away everything I got initially. :dontknow: Link to comment
inobu Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 The color would have to be present during the molding process. I'm thinking a silicone mold could yield that type of finish along with the resin color. A lot of time and effort. Inobu Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I don't see why they couldn't just mod it in color and place a gloss overcoat on it to give it the finish similar to the prototype. Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Because the prototype changes color depending on how it catches the light. It's easy enough painting something with pearlescent paint, but the paint tends to be thicker then normal paint, which means you might lose details. At least, the pearlescent paint for cars was thicker than regular paints... Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I hadn't realized it was using that sorta paint. Link to comment
westfalen Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Would there be some sort of protocol in effect that would prohibit model manufacturers from doing the current royal train? Kato and Micro-Ace have done the previous one, would it have still been in use when the models were done? Hi! for industrial production normally you need the permission from the company that retain royalty (JR or manifacturer like Hitachi, Kawasaki, etc...), for example for the last ETR 500 in HO from ACME, have permission to BREDA (industrial manifacturer) and obviously it's not gratis ;-) if you want you can build yourself one E655 but the base for kitbashing is KATO 257 (not so simple to find used and maybe junk to be low expensive) you need this book that contain all instruction (in japanese but with a lot of photo and drawings) http://www.hobbyjapan.co.jp/tmm5/ this is one example... http://ftfactory1993.cool.ne.jp/usr/bin/perl/diarypro/diary.cgi?no=88 ciao Massimo I was not thinking so much of commercial royalties and copyright but of royal protocol, the Japanese have more reverence for their Emperor than most western nations do for their heads of state. Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I hadn't realized it was using that sorta paint. http://www.hobidas.com/blog/rail/natori/655n42.jpg Quite extreme example, but the thing actually turns pink in the bright light of a camera flash =) 1 Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 I've seen the paint in action before. A few years ago it was pretty popular to repaint SN95-platform Ford Mustangs with this paint. I just hadn't realized that the 655 had it. I've always thought it was a Pensy red. Link to comment
jappomania Posted November 1, 2009 Share Posted November 1, 2009 I was not thinking so much of commercial royalties and copyright but of royal protocol, the Japanese have more reverence for their Emperor than most western nations do for their heads of state. only one trailer is for Imperial use, the 5 cars base train formation is a normal agency train, if you have money you can rent it, similar like SL train and special steam train that you can rent in Italy, Germany etc... for example the copyright problem was the reason for the 8 years delay of E4 production, the past year one Microace train has been released with 6 month delay for the same reason...(and "rumors" about delay of Shinkansen 100 X1 because Tomix still have copyright for X0 prototype) the problem is the same for the special painting trains like Microace Doraemon, Shinkansen Pokemon, Galaxy Express etc... (note: all those infos from my friend Taisei and from Mr.Nao - Rainbowten shop) and this would not be the first imperial train (oldest already reproduced from Kato, Microace, Greenmax and other...) ciao Massimo Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 I'd rent that train if I had the money. Then again I've always wanted a private car of my own. Link to comment
marknewton Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Be careful what you wish for! Owning your own passenger car or locomotive can be a very expensive and frustrating experience. Ask me how I know... Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
jappomania Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 maybe if I win the lottery "superenalotto" jackpot (now at 75.000.000 euros, the last that won at 147.000.000 euros) I buy the E655, I think I can start 1:1 scale collection (in Italy you can buy the old locomotive or train like used iron but the dream is one 0 key head car like the York museum or one 500 head car when retired) ciao Massimo Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted November 5, 2009 Share Posted November 5, 2009 Be careful what you wish for! Owning your own passenger car or locomotive can be a very expensive and frustrating experience. Ask me how I know... Cheers, Mark. I know, believe me, I had a caboose. Link to comment
stevenh Posted November 18, 2009 Share Posted November 18, 2009 This train is simply amazing: Check out a review here... inside and out... I love the camera in the front of the train that you can tune in to. Link to comment
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