GreenMax - New Releases

[JR 500系]

Yes... at least nothing interesting for me now, except that orange Kintetsu... But I am still waiting for the new paint works to be released...

[ToniBabelony]

A surprising announcement from Greenmax: http://www.greenmax.co.jp/pdf/new_release_201612_05.pdf

 

The new Shizutetsu A3000 type train, as announced by Tomytec as well a week ago. The GM version will obviously feature a motor, but also lights and overall probably a much better finish. The price will be about ¥6000 more than a completely assembled Tomytec version (http://www.tomytec.co.jp/diocolle/items/pdf/newitem_20161214_08.pdf, ¥7900 in total), but with that you get front lights, probably room for interior lights and a coreless motor below the window level. Personally, if I were a Shizutetsu fan, I'd go for the Greenmax version, even though it's far more expensive.

[katoftw]

7150 yen in total for Tomytec.  you'd only be using half the pantagraph and trailer kits.

 

but since most retailers offer 15-20% off.  15-20% off 13,900 yen is much bigger than 15-20% off 7150 yen.  So probably 5,500 yen or there abouts for better finish, better motor, interior lights, exterior directional lights and alighted destination boards.  the extra 5,500 yen is worth it.

Edited December 22, 2016 by katoftw

[ToniBabelony]

7150 yen in total for Tomytec.  you'd only be using half the pantagraph and trailer kits.

 

but since most retailers offer 15-20% off.  15-20% off 13,900 yen is much bigger than 15-20% off 7150 yen.  So probably 5,500 yen or there abouts for better finish, better motor, interior lights, exterior directional lights and alighted destination boards.  the extra 5,500 yen is worth it.

 

Let's say the difference in the Greenmax and Tomytec model is about ten beers at a regular izakaya. Beer is always a good thumb of rule to calculate xD

[JR 500系]

Let's say the difference in the Greenmax and Tomytec model is about ten beers at a regular izakaya. Beer is always a good thumb of rule to calculate xD

 

Good one! But i'm the poor guy who got the shortest straw and is allergic to beer.... (or actually alcoholic malt) ...

 

But yes if I were a Shizutetsu fan I would surely go for the GreenMax one... Directional lighting and the ability for interior lights always appeal to me and is often that is lacking in Tomytec sets that I don't really like...

[Gordon Werner]

A surprising announcement from Greenmax: http://www.greenmax.co.jp/pdf/new_release_201612_05.pdf

 

The new Shizutetsu A3000 type train, as announced by Tomytec as well a week ago. The GM version will obviously feature a motor, but also lights and overall probably a much better finish. The price will be about ¥6000 more than a completely assembled Tomytec version (http://www.tomytec.co.jp/diocolle/items/pdf/newitem_20161214_08.pdf, ¥7900 in total), but with that you get front lights, probably room for interior lights and a coreless motor below the window level. Personally, if I were a Shizutetsu fan, I'd go for the Greenmax version, even though it's far more expensive.

 

wow ... two manufacturers making the same single double-unit EMU .... just in time for 2098 when the railway finally gets the second set

[serotta1972]

Don't forget to factor in the labor to convert the tomytec into a running version or was that already in the price Toni quoted.

[Guest keio6000]

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/27108203/ModelAirplanes/keiotakao.png

 

 

song is perfectly appropriate to this release and also to the day! (and also sung by the choir about a 1000m from where i live :) )

 

now the obvious thing: after 10+ years of microace faffing about on keio 8000 we finally get a GM AND a MA version coming at once? amazing.

 

between this and what will hopefully be a win on an auction of a kato converted seibu 101/301 into a white version (complete with all the necessary skirt, panto, etc changes) this is shaping up to be a hell of a train day. two 10+ year plus wants filled in 24 hours!

Edited January 11, 2017 by cteno4
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[bill937ca]

The Shizuoka Railway 3000 prototype introduction from Greenmax via Facebook (Japanese text). http://www.gm-store.co.jp/blog/gmstore-staff/archives/43094

 

Green Max Corporation video.

 

Edited January 12, 2017 by bill937ca

[HantuBlauLOL]

man, those looks really tempting..

[katoftw]

I'm not rolling the dice on this one.  It is a lovely model.  But I buy the blue.  Then I'll be hooked and need to buy the next 5 colour upon release.

[ToniBabelony]

Hmm... Tempting and the pricing is also quite good for a new GM product... This makes me want to add an extra line to my layout to run 2-car 18m trains as well.

[bill937ca]

Second prototype set is due in Spring 2017.    http://www.shizuoka-rainbow.jp/info005.php

Edited January 12, 2017 by bill937ca

[JR 500系]

It looks great, but not jumping onto another private railway bandwagon again...

[Das Steinkopf]

It looks great, but not jumping onto another private railway bandwagon again...

What has the wife finally figured out how much rolling stock you actually have.

[bill937ca]

It looks great, but not jumping onto another private railway bandwagon again...

 

Private railways are the spice of life.    :glasses1:

[JR 500系]

What has the wife finally figured out how much rolling stock you actually have.

 

She actually did ~  :P  Hence the appearance of some sets for sale as I have to convince her that there is always buying and selling    :P

[JR 500系]

Private railways are the spice of life.    :glasses1:

 

Yap... but I think I have enough spices for life now...   ;)

[katoftw]

Whenever my wife gets on me about my trains.  I remind her about shoes.  She normally goes quiet for a few weeks until next months box of trains arrives.

[medusa]

Hm, we both are collectors so no discussions about. I don't ask why she has to order one more Momoko doll and she doesn't ask why I order another Shinkansen. Works great. :)

[nah00]

Whenever my wife gets on me about my trains.  I remind her about shoes.  She normally goes quiet for a few weeks until next months box of trains arrives.

 

Another good response is 'well I could spend the money on booze at the bar'. 

[Robert46]

Sorry for a repost for something that boggles me again... Here is the question before:

 

I have a question guys:

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392860

 

Green Max is releasing a core-less motor, apparently useable on various models. This might get interesting as we can now motorised add-on set that do not have motors and allow them to move on their own consist... They have lengths of:

 

 

 

1) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392858   [ 5713 ] Coreless Motor Power Unit (18m Class)

2) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392859  [ 5714 ] Coreless Motor Power Unit (18.5m Class)

3) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392860  [ 5715 ] Coreless Motor Power Unit (20m Class }

4) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392855  [ 5711 ] Coreless Motor Power Unit (20m Class A)

5) http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10392857  [ 5712 ] Coreless Motor Power Unit (21m Class)

 

Along with various bogie and under-chassis parts for them...

 

This is confusing, so how would we know which length of motor is workable with which type of trains? How about the corresponding bogie and under-chassis part to get? Anyone can shed some light on this?

 

Thanks in advance!

 

 

 

So, say if I want to add in one more motor, in particular, for my Tomix E233-0 series and my Tomix E231-1000 series (both are 10 car sets with only one motor car and they tend to suffer at climbs), which motor is compatible with this? I do know Tomix also have them, but they are all out of production...

 

Back on this one,

 

I am curious if someone had tried the experiment to use this greenmax motor to be fitted into tomytec car? if this worked well, I planned to use the greenmax motor for my tomytec 20m car.. they are toei 6000, tobu 8000 and izukyu 8000.

 

Not sure if the 20m greenmax motor can be used for the 20m tomytec car or should use shorter greenmax motor as my other concern is also the distance between the two bogies in the motor car of greenmax. so using the shorter motor could be looked strange.. :)

 

Hope to hear the share of your experience. Thanks. :)

[ToniBabelony]

Back on this one,

 

I am curious if someone had tried the experiment to use this greenmax motor to be fitted into tomytec car? if this worked well, I planned to use the greenmax motor for my tomytec 20m car.. they are toei 6000, tobu 8000 and izukyu 8000.

 

Not sure if the 20m greenmax motor can be used for the 20m tomytec car or should use shorter greenmax motor as my other concern is also the distance between the two bogies in the motor car of greenmax. so using the shorter motor could be looked strange.. :)

 

Hope to hear the share of your experience. Thanks. :)

 

I have made a list of the dimensions of these new power units here if that helps a bit: http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/11684-aftermarket-detail-parts/?p=145897

 

At the moment, I'm currently in the process of obtaining a few Tomytec Tōbu 6050, which IIRC have the same dimensions as the Tōbu 8000 chassis (the same kind of Tōbu Minden bogies on the rebuilt versions and TM-25 Tomytec power units). Despite the general dimensions being the same, the Tōbu Minden bogies in general have a greater axle distance than regular bogies (in model about 1.9mm, which is a lot), so I don't recommend it. However, if you can live with the 0.95mm axle distance difference per axle as a compromise for a motor below the windows, it's probably a good alternative. Then again, if you actually mean the Tōkyū 8000 (the same as the Izukyū 8000) and the Toei 6000. the dimensions should be fine, as these trains take the TM-08®, which comes very very close to the GM dimensions. ;)

[katoftw]

I'm pretty sure it wont work unless you modify a little.  As the shell mounting is different.

[Robert46]

I have made a list of the dimensions of these new power units here if that helps a bit: http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/11684-aftermarket-detail-parts/?p=145897

 

At the moment, I'm currently in the process of obtaining a few Tomytec Tōbu 6050, which IIRC have the same dimensions as the Tōbu 8000 chassis (the same kind of Tōbu Minden bogies on the rebuilt versions and TM-25 Tomytec power units). Despite the general dimensions being the same, the Tōbu Minden bogies in general have a greater axle distance than regular bogies (in model about 1.9mm, which is a lot), so I don't recommend it. However, if you can live with the 0.95mm axle distance difference per axle as a compromise for a motor below the windows, it's probably a good alternative. Then again, if you actually mean the Tōkyū 8000 (the same as the Izukyū 8000) and the Toei 6000. the dimensions should be fine, as these trains take the TM-08®, which comes very very close to the GM dimensions. ;)

 

Many thanks Toni.. I hope you can also share the pictures when it is fitted to the tomytec car

 

Yes, correct the Izukyu 8000 is the same as Tokyu 8000..  and the Tobu 8000 is the same as greenmax models. So I have a thought the dimension should fit.. I think all tomytec models I mentioned should use TM-08®. As mentioned by Katoftw, I am also curious how you make the tomytec body would click to the greenmax motor..