katoftw Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 (edited) ・Series 205-500 Sagami Line New Color (4-Car Set) Micro Ace ・KIHA32 New Color (w/Skirt) Square Right (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・KIHA32 New Color (w/Rearview Mirror) Round Right (2-Car Se... Micro Ace ・Echigo TOKImeki Railway Series ET-127 (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 1000 B Unit Improved (4-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 1000 A Unit Improved (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 922-0 Electric Test Cars First Remodeling (4-C... Micro Ace Prices might be good cos some of the models are simple re-boots. Edited October 20, 2016 by katoftw Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Which ones get you excited? :) 1 Link to comment
katoftw Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The ET-127 is calling to me for some reason. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 ・Series 205-500 Sagami Line New Color (4-Car Set) Micro Ace ・KIHA32 New Color (w/Skirt) Square Right (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・KIHA32 New Color (w/Rearview Mirror) Round Right (2-Car Se... Micro Ace ・Echigo TOKImeki Railway Series ET-127 (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 1000 B Unit Improved (4-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 1000 A Unit Improved (2-Car Set) Micro Ace ・Shinkansen Type 922-0 Electric Test Cars First Remodeling (4-C... Micro Ace Prices might be good cos some of the models are simple re-boots. makes sense.... But nevertheless a good time to grab those sets that have long been forgotten or given up... That 922-0 looks interesting though, I thought it was a Doctor Yellow but seems lie it's not! That 205-500 Sagami Line is nice too.... Is it a new colour? Description says so, but it looks exactly the same as the previous model A8760... 1 Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 The prices look nice again. Maybe there is hope for a better price range in the future for MicroAce models. The Sagami line 205-500 recently underwent a little overhaul with the new colour and it certainly looks different and more fresh than the greenish-blue (aqua?) Having ridden the entire line and living nearby, I must say I'm getting more and more interested in owning a model, even though the front is not the most attractive. The line itself is however very intriguing (especially compared with the other surrounding JR lines) and that makes up for the whole weirdness of the design. 1 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Ah... thanks Toni san for the clarification! I knew I heard and saw somewhere regarding the difference in liveries of the Sagami line... Here was the short video I saw... But that picture helped to show the differences a lot better... Now I need to go back and check my model... from the picture on HS, the colour banding looks like it is the new colour... If it is, then the newer MA colour would be ... ? According to MA, the newer model should be the new colour band while the older model should be the old colour band, since it is named 'Time of Debut'... Link to comment
Das Steinkopf Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) The ET-127 is calling to me for some reason. I think it's because you have a fetish for short EMU's, especially 2 car units. Edited October 21, 2016 by Das Steinkopf Link to comment
VJM Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 makes sense.... But nevertheless a good time to grab those sets that have long been forgotten or given up... That 922-0 looks interesting though, I thought it was a Doctor Yellow but seems lie it's not! Why is it not a Doctor Yellow? The poster specifically says this was the very first Doctor Yellow. The 922-0 in the pic is yellow, but the photo is very washed out, that's all. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Why is it not a Doctor Yellow? The poster specifically says this was the very first Doctor Yellow. The 922-0 in the pic is yellow, but the photo is very washed out, that's all. Serious? I thought the picture looked very washed-out white... Then again, aside from the East-i, i don't think i saw an inspection bullet train not is not yellow.... Nevertheless, yellow or white, i think i will get it ~ I don't have a zero series, and best yet, a zero inspector series to join his yellow 923 buddy ~ Link to comment
Kiha66 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 That 922-0 looks interesting though, I thought it was a Doctor Yellow but seems lie it's not! From my understanding it was originally the 1962 prototype for the 0 series Shinkansen, then was later modified to be the first Dr. Yellow after the 0 Series began operation in 1964. This page has a few pictures along with what I assume is another test car. http://mu3rail.blog.so-net.ne.jp/2007-09-10 1 Link to comment
Kb4iuj Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 I just saw at Hobby Search some other versions of the HB-E300... 2 car sets in reserve. Special paint jobs. Link to comment
katoftw Posted October 24, 2016 Share Posted October 24, 2016 Not special paint job. Just the regular paint like the prototypes. But the Micro Ace ones just aren't worth the value compare to the Kato versions recently released. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I think this is the first time I've seen this. Seibu and Sogō (a full subsidiary from Seven & I Holdings) is teaming up with MicroAce in a crowdfunding project to produce a 4-car 501 Series for ¥27,000: https://greenfunding.jp/sogo-seibu/projects/1679 They need to achieve a 800 set goal for the project to succeed, which kind of gives an insight in how much a project like this will cost in total (¥21.600.000) for a full production model. It's a steep price for a 4-car model, but it will almost guarantee a model produced just for you and you only. With that in mind, the comparatively high price is quite good. Even if this project doesn't reach its goal, it could be a way forward for companies like MicroAce who like to cater to a very niche market. Then again, it can also be off-putting for impulse-oriented buyers who like to see the model first before purchasing it. I'm not interested at all in this particular model, but I'm interested in how this experiment will turn out! 2 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Interesting concept... A great idea, but again, how would it look like? Does this mean they will only go ahead with the production if they met the 800 sets target? It's a nice idea and maybe a step forward for future N scale train models, but like Toni, i'm not a fan of the train itself... Will overseas buyers be allowed to participate in this? Link to comment
railsquid Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 This idea has already been tried out successfully in the UK, albeit for contemporary models where there's still a huge gap in the market, as unlike Japan coverage of the modern British N gauge scene is still very patchy. Japan is fortunate in having Tomytec to produce obscurer older models, I wonder why they're going down this more ambitious route? Link to comment
nah00 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 The ET-127 is calling to me for some reason. It is a VERY nice livery which was the reason for my reservation. Plus I'm starting to move toward shorter trains since they look better on my layout. Link to comment
kvp Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Why didn't they just ask Tomix for a Tomytec model? Cheaper to make, doesn't need crowdfunding and most special parts (motors/wheels) are off the shelf. Microace is much more expensive. Or maybe it was MA's idea? Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 Tomytec does do a lot of special runs for local rr, events, etc, they seem to have some sort of request process. Jeff Link to comment
katoftw Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 (edited) Why didn't they just ask Tomix for a Tomytec model? Cheaper to make, doesn't need crowdfunding and most special parts (motors/wheels) are off the shelf. Microace is much more expensive. Or maybe it was MA's idea?some dont wanna settle for second place. While tomytec is good. It will never be the real thing. Edited October 28, 2016 by katoftw Link to comment
Suica Posted October 28, 2016 Share Posted October 28, 2016 14712773_985084861601321_6085296095443466545_o.jpg Which ones get you excited? :) The 922 series! I already have the two 1000 series prototype sets, so this will be a great addition! Link to comment
Densha Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) I've been thinking for a while now to get the MicroAce JR Shikoku KiHa 54 and 121 series when they're re-released this month, but they're still so much more expensive than other models. MicroAce prices are about the same as you pay for a Tomix High Grade model, even though we're then obviously talking about other trains. The KiHa 54 will also be released by Tomytec soon, and together with the power unit can be bought for about 5500 yen. The MA model goes for 11000 yen, exactly twice the price, but it does feature headlights etc. which you won't get with the Tomytec one. I wonder about the difference between level of detail. Edited November 5, 2016 by Densha Link to comment
katoftw Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Personally I don't rate Tomytec highly on levels of detail. But yes MA is yards ahead when to comes to level of detail. Motors under floors, not in windows, working headlights, tail-lights and working destination boards. Up to you which way you go. MA is worth every cent if you want a full functioning highly detailed running model. p.s. I calculate the Tomytec version to be around 6000 yen. 2500 for the 2x KiHas, 3000 for the motor, 500 for half of trailer kit. Edited November 5, 2016 by katoftw Link to comment
Densha Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Ah, yes, I forgot about the trailer accessories and that Tomytec motors that are visible through the windows. Tomytec really should start making their motor units lower. Together with the lightning and higher level of detail I probably should go with the MA one. Edited November 5, 2016 by Densha Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 The difference between Tomytec and MicroAce is mainly the lights and the visibility of the motor unit through the windows (at least for me). I'm not sure, but for roughly a thousand yen more it's probably better to upgrade the motor unit to a new Greenmax one where the motor is below the windows: http://sinshonan2.exblog.jp/24719811/ at least then the problem of the visible motor is gone. Lights can be installed with a bit of ingenuity and patience anyway, so if you're willing to do that, a Tomytec option might be the best choice. Link to comment
Densha Posted November 5, 2016 Share Posted November 5, 2016 (edited) Hrmm... but that's already getting closer to the price for the MA one. And I'm not sure if I want to go hacking the lightning into the Tomytec models. That's not really my thing. And I'm not sure whether you can replace the bogie parts of the GM motor units with the proper parts from the Tomytec model. Looks like you can. Looking at the MA model and the Hokkaido Tomytec model, I feel like the MA has better detailing, but it's difficult to see through the poor images: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPrreZ3Y1rk91UNYkvk_VCBpV4_YDg6dXoZWA939YZaiC8YDCtssY3VigEC4DyH_A/photo/AF1QipPL8WzKqZm94KvkfD8INVnEV_aH1G4VOdfmyJVs?key=cTJLU25rVkVybnNIVWhRT2V5ZXRnMnQ0bHRsU19R http://www.1999.co.jp/image/10377947/20/2 Edited November 5, 2016 by Densha Link to comment
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