Guest keio6000 Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Ugliest Diesel? Ugliest Electric? Ugliest Subway? Ugliest JR? Ugliest Private? Ugliest Express? Ugliest Loco? Ugliest Livery on an otherwise decent train? Ugliest shape? Ugliest that has been turned into an N-scale mass produced model? #1 Grand Ugly Champion? Edited June 20, 2013 by keio6000 Link to comment
miyakoji Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 By diesel and electric, do you mean passenger MUs or locomotives? So many of the electric locos look almost the same. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Is this about global trains or Japanese only? (since this topic is in the Japanese Rail News, etc. subforum and all). Link to comment
miyakoji Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Is this about global trains or Japanese only? (since this topic is in the Japanese Rail News, etc. subforum and all). Yeah that's a good point. For ugliest subway train, I'd say any rolling stock that has just one small window for the driver. I know these exist in the US, not sure about elsewhere. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ugliest Subway in my opinion.... Link to comment
miyakoji Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 I think it gets worse than that. Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ugliest Subway in my opinion.... You can thank Metro-Cammell for bringing their aesthetic to SE Asia and making it the de-facto standard there. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Actually they dont look too bad, just that the people operating the system makes them look bad... A broken-down train stopping on the track will never look better than any moving train.... Link to comment
KenS Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ugliest train? My vote's for the "fish lips" train, more correctly the "Resort Saloon Festa", a JR West "Joyful Train" DMU that operated from 1988 to 2001 out of Hiroshima. I'm all for Japan's quirky sense of design, but this one just takes it too far for my taste. http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/115-fish-lips-train/ Micro Ace did a model (long sold out), so it qualifies for ugliest model train too. For more photos, see Japanese Wikipedia. 2 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wasn't there a similar thread to this not too long ago? Very SSC-esque. Someone proposed the JNR gas turbine prototype as an ungainly candidate, I said I wanted to do great violence to the FRP nose of the Ikoma funicular. Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Ugliest train? My vote's for the "fish lips" train, more correctly the "Resort Saloon Festa", a JR West "Joyful Train" DMU that operated from 1988 to 2001 out of Hiroshima. I'm all for Japan's quirky sense of design, but this one just takes it too far for my taste. http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/115-fish-lips-train/ Micro Ace did a model (long sold out), so it qualifies for ugliest model train too. For more photos, see Japanese Wikipedia. I guess I have 2 of the ugliest train then :) MicroAce actually did 2 models, an old and a new version, which I both ordered at the time. But I really can't see the difference between the 2, so I ended up giving 1 to my father instead. I have to say though, I actually quite like the train, not the prettiest, but I wouldn't consider it ugly either. Link to comment
Densha Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Wasn't there a similar thread to this not too long ago? Very SSC-esque. Someone proposed the JNR gas turbine prototype as an ungainly candidate, I said I wanted to do great violence to the FRP nose of the Ikoma funicular. Yes, I made it: http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/7227-maybe-the-ugliest-japanese-train-ever/ Link to comment
bronzeonion Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 If we're talking worldwide this is one of the worst i've seen http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/17/Siemens-velaro-d-407-502-4-beim-499945.jpg Doesn't quite have the sleek, aerodynamic look of the Shinkansen... Link to comment
Densha Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Although it can still travel at 320km/h... I'm still wondering why the Japanese HST's have such long noses while European don't. I read they won't be in service anytime soon because there are problems with the trains, I forgot what it was about. I still can't remember the most ugliest trains I've seen until now... Link to comment
miyakoji Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 On the E5/E6, aren't the noses intended to reduce the noise made when exiting tunnels? Link to comment
Densha Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 So far I know that's correct, but why do the European HST's not have these noses? Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted June 21, 2013 Share Posted June 21, 2013 Japan has more tunnels on their high speed lines compared to most European countries running at 300+ km/h, and many of the tunnels are in residential area's .. Not a lot of fun getting tunnel boom every so often, and it can get really loud ;) Link to comment
cteno4 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Oh but it's so lovable and unique. If only the lips moved like the real one. This is the problem with this sort of question, beauty can be in the eye of the beholder! Jeff Ugliest train? My vote's for the "fish lips" train, more correctly the "Resort Saloon Festa", a JR West "Joyful Train" DMU that operated from 1988 to 2001 out of Hiroshima. I'm all for Japan's quirky sense of design, but this one just takes it too far for my taste. http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/115-fish-lips-train/ Micro Ace did a model (long sold out), so it qualifies for ugliest model train too. For more photos, see Japanese Wikipedia. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Since the 500 nose design has been driven for reducing the tunnel noise for residents and train riders. Later models are computer modeled and I'm sure most of the form all the form is driven for the minimum for the noise in aerodynamic simulations, not the look. Jeff Link to comment
macdon Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 For me, an ugly train is a train that isnt running .................. so I feel I wanna run my trains on a daily basis to get out of the ugly pool Lol! Mardon 1 Link to comment
Sacto1985 Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Since the 500 nose design has been driven for reducing the tunnel noise for residents and train riders. Later models are computer modeled and I'm sure most of the form all the form is driven for the minimum for the noise in aerodynamic simulations, not the look. Jeff I think it's more than just that--it's also to reduce the aerodynamic drag to reduce the electrical load requirements, especially now with 700/N700/N700A trainsets reaching 270 to 300km/h on the Tokaidō and San'yō Shinkansen lines and E5/E6 trainsets planned for operation beyond 320 km/h on the Tōhoku Shinkansen line. Link to comment
Densha Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 Oh but it's so lovable and unique. If only the lips moved like the real one. This is the problem with this sort of question, beauty can be in the eye of the beholder! Jeff Looks are all subjective so that means we can discuss about it. Link to comment
Claude_Dreyfus Posted June 22, 2013 Share Posted June 22, 2013 This wouldn't win any beauty awards! http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Rail_Class_380 They keep these up in Scotland! 2 Link to comment
westfalen Posted June 23, 2013 Share Posted June 23, 2013 I've always thought of some of the more unusual Japanese trains as wierd rather than ugly. From my personal travels, despite being the home to some of the world's greatest artworks, I'll have to give the ugliest train prize to France for this monstrosity I saw in Lens on 02/07/08. 1 Link to comment
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