Going Japanese!!!

[Pauljag900]

Jeff,Scott,I ve tried the reverse ladder for engine sheds and I just can t fit it in,I could probably get one line in for an engine shed but not two,it's just not quite long enough.So it's back to the drawing board I m afraid,

Paul

[Pauljag900]

Jeff,Scott,I lied! Lol,had a play about on anyrail and came up with this,

 

 

I ll need to keep one of the two outside lines free to be able to reverse to the engine shed area.

The straight line will be slightly forced which is why it's running slightly out but it all works ok,I may be able to jiggle it slightly so it does nt look quite so obvious,or maybe I m just being a bit too picky.Obviously this is where I will fit the two points then branch off to the sheds and sidings.Great idea to fill the platform area but the downside is I ll need some shorter trains,2,3 or 4 car units because the sidings are now shorter.That said,I do nt mind as it will look a lot better with the empty space filled.

Thanks for the suggestion you two,much appreciated,

Paul

 

 

Also this is from the side,it may not look as obvious from the front.

Another 4mm and it would have been fine! Lol

Edited January 25, 2016 by Pauljag900

[cteno4]

Paul,

 

I was thinking with your original track plan that outside spur just use a point where that last 15 degree turn was to come straight back along the wall, then branch off of it with a couple of points going to the inside. This should give you max length on all tracks.

 

Jeff

[Eurostar25]

Looking good Paul, if you've got a few spare pieces you can borrow from other parts of the layout have a play with trial and error at fitting them into the space. I've found drawing it up on anyrail one thing but nothing beats physically seeing the parts laid out on the baseboard to see if it works or not. Anyrail is brilliant for me, I've designed 7 of my modules already on there but am only up to building the 3rd!

[Pauljag900]

Jeff,thanks mate,I could nt get the point in because the track is too close to the side wall,not sure I m happy with it as it is so gonna have another look at it tomorrow ,may need to lose one of the outside sidings.

 

Scott,yeah I love anyrail,easy to use but your right,you can t beat doing the real thing,

Cheers gents,

Paul

[cteno4]

Paul, if you reverse the point and use the diverging (curved) leg of the point to replace the curve there after the last point.

Jeff

[Pauljag900]

Hi Jeff,yeah,I see what you mean but I had a r/h point left over so thought I d try and do it so I could use that but it just did nt look right.I ve put it back how it was and I ll pinch a l/h point from the layout and fit that in and see what it links like in terms of it fitting ok.It will be tight,

Thanks mate

Paul

[Pauljag900]

Anyway,I ve put it back how it was and ordered the left hand point,hope it fits! I ll make it fit somehow!

[Pauljag900]

So I put it all back together as it was and removed one of the LH points from the layout and tried it where Jeff sugested,I had to jiggle the tracks slightly but I got it in.the straights are just odd bits put together just to line it up but will be where the points will go.

 

 

I went back on anyrail and came up with this track layout,the two tracks closest together will be where the engine shed will go and a substation just behind it where the small space is,it was too short for a siding.

 

[cteno4]

Ah yes power substation good bit for there!

 

Jeff

[Pauljag900]

Hey Jeff,how's it going mate,thanks very much for your advice on this,got the LH point coming tomoz from local shop and I m about to order the other point and track etc for the rest.I used a local shop as it s only a few bits.I did try the points along the straight but they were all LH and I ve got a RH one here so put it the other way so I could use it,track should all be done by weekend

Paul

[Pauljag900]

Last of the points,switches and other track arrived yesterday and the Kato locco shed this morning.I now realise the curve coming off the last point to the engine shed is the wrong one,it's a 481/15 and needs to be a 718/15, needless to say I ll get one! At least now the station is virtually complete apart from a bit of tidying up and finishing off the platforms.

Thanks a bunch to all those who helped me with their suggestions regarding finishing off the station track layouts and also with the electrical problems I had.

[Eurostar25]

Looking really good Paul, the shed fills in the spot nicely.

[beakaboy]

Nice setup Paul. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the green and cream Shinkansen with blue nose. I love the paint scheme!

[cteno4]

Nice Paul, can fill in around it with other repair bits with time.

 

You are going to have to put a power feed to that switchback ladder as it won't get power from that reversed point that feeds it. You could put a feed just past the point and just wire it to a switch when you want to shuttle trains into that far siding and keep the reverse ladder filled and off. This is one of those situations were the power routing can't do it all unfortunately.

 

Jeff

[katoftw]

Not a fan of the track being pressed right up to the wall.

[Pauljag900]

Nice Paul, can fill in around it with other repair bits with time.

You are going to have to put a power feed to that switchback ladder as it won't get power from that reversed point that feeds it. You could put a feed just past the point and just wire it to a switch when you want to shuttle trains into that far siding and keep the reverse ladder filled and off. This is one of those situations were the power routing can't do it all unfortunately.

Jeff

Jeff,something else I may not have worked out by myself,ha ha,you mentioned that last week so when I ordered the points and track I ordered o power feed and I had a spare controller so it's wired up so when the power is switched off that part of the layout I can still use it independently.

I ve also ordered the tomix substation which will sit just the other side of the shed which will just about fill it up nicely mate

Edited January 31, 2016 by Pauljag900

[Pauljag900]

Nice setup Paul. Excuse my ignorance, but what is the green and cream Shinkansen with blue nose. I love the paint scheme!

Hi beakaboy, seems we have something in common! Ha ha,the paint job is the reason I bought it and to be Honest that's the basis of choosing all my models,looks.

 

 

 

 

Do nt worry about it not being available,if you ask Nariichi I m sure he ll get you one,

Paul

[Pauljag900]

Not a fan of the track being pressed right up to the wall.

Hi Kato,I had nt actually planned it to be that way but there was a big empty space where that reverse ladder is now so that part was added in later,it may look a bit tight there now but it's a damn sight better than the big empty space that was there before! Ha ha

Paul

[cteno4]

Paul,

 

Looks fine to me. Great thing about Japanese rr modeling is that there are prototypes for just about everything! Sure there are instances of a track near a wall like that. And as you note it's a tradeoff when modeling like this! Nicely fills up the space and still some room there for interesting Yard details later. What is important is what you want and like, others opinions' are that, their own.

 

Jeff

[Pauljag900]

Jeff,

We had a conversation last nite in the chatroom,nicofabi,weird one,miyakoji and me.and we were saying how it's nice to copy something or somewhere that's real,but in reality and in modelling terms,given the fact that most of us have limited space to work in,it gets very dificult and complicated to replicate real life to n gauge,god help those trying to do it in z r smaller! Ha.ha

Everything is open to interpretation and opinion,and to be honest,as you say,it's up to you at the end of the day.I think it looks good thanks to certain people who helped me,cheers Jeff

Edited January 31, 2016 by Pauljag900

[cteno4]

Yeah it's all about the tradeoffs and find the permutation that gets you the most for what you want and need! Nothing can be perfect when modeling like this.

 

Cheers

 

Jeff

[Robert46]

Last of the points,switches and other track arrived yesterday and the Kato locco shed this morning.I now realise the curve coming off the last point to the engine shed is the wrong one,it's a 481/15 and needs to be a 718/15, needless to say I ll get one! At least now the station is virtually complete apart from a bit of tidying up and finishing off the platforms.

Thanks a bunch to all those who helped me with their suggestions regarding finishing off the station track layouts and also with the electrical problems I had.image.jpegimage.jpeg

 

Glad to see the overhead station finally take shape.. the loco shed worked well to fill the space.. good solution :)

[nah00]

I like it. It looks busy and full which is what all of the urban Japanese stations look like. Do you ever have any hang-ups with the switch against the wall? Looks like it's tight for some passenger units. 

[Pauljag900]

Hi mate,thanks for the comments.yes its a tight fit but all the trains i have at the moment clear the walls ok,there is about a 5mm gap at the back and about 4 mm at the front,but it seems to work fine at the mo,

Paul