Martijn Meerts Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Ullrich, there's a thread here: http://www.jnsforum.com/index.php/topic,5159.0.html The measurements aren't 100% correct anymore, the table is going to be about 40cm shorter because of a slanting roof on 1 side of the room. Going for a large station (16 car trains :)) in a city setting and a smaller, main-line station (where expresses don't stop), with a few local/urban stops here and there. The city should also have a tram running though it. There's also going to be a large (removable) hidden storage yard, and hopefully a steam servicing area. I'm re-drawing the large station right now, since I have some fairly specific ideas for interesting movement of trains there, but that's really also the only area I have specific ideas for ;) Using Peco code 55 for the train tracks, probably Tomix for the tram tracks, the whole lot will be DCC and computer controlled. Link to comment
Mr Frosty Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I would remove the corner dividers and just leep the front/back one. Use scenic elements; hills, overpass, tunnels etc to transition from one scene to the next. 1 Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Madog, If you don't mind, I might get you to review my design in coming weeks. Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Madog, If you don't mind, I might get you to review my design in coming weeks. Cheers The_Ghan Your are welcome! I again changed a few things, incorporating some of the ideas I got from you guys. The design is now entering the final stage - hopefully. Here it is: Getting to like it more and more! Link to comment
ease Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Just a small suggestion.... on your far right you have a curved bridge.... since your using uni-track (as I am)... you might consider "transforming" curved viaduct uni-track into a curved bridge.... someone here suggested it to me and it works great.... g-luck Link to comment
marknewton Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 I would remove the corner dividers and just leep the front/back one. I quite like the idea of the corner dividers, so I would keep them. Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Tops! Tops! Tops! I agree with Mark. Keep the corner dividers. I'm thinking they should be quite tall and support some overhead lighting. The background poster scenery could really make this layout a winner. Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Just a small suggestion.... on your far right you have a curved bridge.... since your using uni-track (as I am)... you might consider "transforming" curved viaduct uni-track into a curved bridge.... someone here suggested it to me and it works great.... g-luck How did you do that? Any pictures? Link to comment
Mudkip Orange Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Why does every track plan always have that same circa-1992 deodorant spokesman standing there with a handheld throttle? It's not realistic, because: (i) we're all fatter than that, and/or else have less hair. (ii) the people that (i) doesn't apply to would never be caught dead wearing a sweater over a collared shirt. Link to comment
ease Posted January 24, 2012 Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sir M. Here is a pict of the my uni-track curved viaduct being used as a plate girder bridge... It still needs green paint but so far.... I had to groove the surrounding pink foam to accomodate the deep V in the bottom of the viaduct (so that it sits flush). This lead to the clearance from the top of the lower track blue engine to the bottom of the deep V being very tight. It fits just barely. I may dremel grind off the deep V for more clearance below.... but I have bigger mountains to climb or um build first... my 2nd pict shows the "deep V" below the viaduct (that i may remove) Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 24, 2012 Author Share Posted January 24, 2012 Why does every track plan always have that same circa-1992 deodorant spokesman standing there with a handheld throttle? It's not realistic, because: (i) we're all fatter than that, and/or else have less hair. (ii) the people that (i) doesn't apply to would never be caught dead wearing a sweater over a collared shirt. ... because I scanned that guy from a Model Railroader page and put him in - just to give me an indication of the size of the layout. And it´s not me in me younger days! Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I like that bloke in the picture ... it does give a sense of scale. Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
Mr Frosty Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I like that bloke in the picture ... it does give a sense of scale. Cheers The_Ghan He appears to be about 3 foot across the shoulders. :icon_biggrin: Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I like that bloke in the picture ... it does give a sense of scale. Cheers The_Ghan He appears to be about 3 foot across the shoulders. :icon_biggrin: No Frosty, you misread the bar scale. They are 1/2 foot squares. The layout is only 6 foot long. Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 For the time being, I´ll leave the plan as it is. I will do some research on buildings and other bric-a-brac to get a good picture of what is waiting for me in financial terms. I am running on a really tight budget, which does not mean I won´t be going for it! Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 What's to change Madog ... that layout is perfect. Can I expect your usual spectacular standard of scenery modelling sometime soon? Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 What's to change Madog ... that layout is perfect. Can I expect your usual spectacular standard of scenery modelling sometime soon? Cheers The_Ghan Sometime - yes, soon - I guess, no! I am out of a job for three years now and living off welfare is no fun. I was able to do some model railroading thanks a generous gift from some friends in the US, who sent me a big box with all the goodies I needed. I have turned in more than 1,500 applications in the past three years, but the answers I get all state either too old or overqualified... big sigh. My wife and I are seriously thinking of leaving this country to more friendly skies, such as Australia, NZ or Canada, but how to find a job there? As a 56 year old ex-CEO/CFO things ain´t easy. Link to comment
rpierce000 Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 I would only add one thing, some sort of equipment shed, farmer's house, some presence of people around the rice paddies. Remember that temples often have paths up to them that have Tori (gates) on them. This is a fun detail and the path will help you emphasize the hill if you want to. I do not know enough about Japanese steam, but does he need an ash pit over by the rest of the servicing area? Bob Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 25, 2012 Author Share Posted January 25, 2012 Bob, it is those little details that make or break the character of a layout - thanks for the for the hint! An ashpit in the steam engine servicing area would be something, but as I plan on using Unitrack I would not know how to incorporate one. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted January 25, 2012 Share Posted January 25, 2012 Both Kato and Tomytec offer a steam engine service facility set. http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10028635 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10149723 http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10149724 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steam-Engine-Facility-Water-Coal-Tower-Tomytec-Komono-081-1-150-N-scale-/360394728856?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item53e9332598 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steam-Engine-Facility-Water-Coal-Tower-B-Tomytec-Komono-082-1-150-N-scale-/120780657037?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item1c1f16918d Link to comment
marknewton Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 Bob is right, an ashpit is an integral part of any steam shed, but none of the Kato or Tomix sets actually provide one. I'm really not familiar with Unitrack, so I don't know how easily it could be done, but you basically need to cut away enough sleepers between the rails to add a pit of your chosen size. I gather that Unitrack has a fairly high ballasted base? That could complicate matters a bit, as track in an engine depot is almost always buried in the ground, much like tramway track. You rarely see neatly ballasted track within an engine shed. One way around the problem would be to use this Peco kit with their track within the depot area. http://www.peco-uk.com/product.asp?strParents=3309,3310&CAT_ID=3311&P_ID=16861 Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
disturbman Posted January 26, 2012 Share Posted January 26, 2012 I think Fleischmann has some and that it should be possible to link Unitrack to Fleischmann with the Unijoiner track piece. Can't be sure but I think it has been done somewhere. Maybe at Quinntopia. Link to comment
Sir Madog Posted January 26, 2012 Author Share Posted January 26, 2012 Actually, it should be fairly easy to join the Peco inspection pit to the Kato track. Both is code 80, so I think all I would have to do is to pull the Unijoiner off the Kato track and substitute it with regular rail joiners. Link to comment
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