kvp Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, JR 500系 said: In addition to the car end tail light, the headlight used during propulsion operation also turns on (with light switch on). Does anyone have a picture or video with the end car on the front and the headlights on? Link to comment
Suica Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Das Steinkopf said: Interesting enough is how they have the silhouette of a DE10 at the other end of the train, I doubt they would be promoting the previous Tomix versions but they have no catalogue number allocated to it yet so hopefully they are alluding to the release of one in the Seven Stars livery in the near future. There's no DE10 in Seven Stars livery. JR Kyushu has several DE10 in three different black liveries. Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 4 hours ago, kvp said: Does anyone have a picture or video with the end car on the front and the headlights on? Multiple links and pics in the last page. Note the extra above window headlights. Pretty sure tail lights are same as reguler DF200s. Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 9 hours ago, Das Steinkopf said: Interesting enough is how they have the silhouette of a DE10 at the other end of the train, I doubt they would be promoting the previous Tomix versions but they have no catalogue number allocated to it yet so hopefully they are alluding to the release of one in the Seven Stars livery in the near future. Was thinking the same. Probably get a separate release start of next year. Link to comment
kvp Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 58 minutes ago, katoftw said: Multiple links and pics in the last page. Note the extra above window headlights. Pretty sure tail lights are same as reguler DF200s. That's the locomotive. I'm looking for headlight mode pictures of the propelling control trailer on the back. The Kato description states that the tail end headlights work, so the consist could be propelled backwards by the locomotive. The car in question has 4 red tail lights (and 2 verical red strips) and 3 headlights in a triangle formation. I'm pretty sure it has been used in propelling configuration as wikipeda has a loco picture with its tail light on and attached to the cars, so the propelling trailer was on the front. Link to comment
Das Steinkopf Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 5 hours ago, Suica said: There's no DE10 in Seven Stars livery. JR Kyushu has several DE10 in three different black liveries. Generally there is a DE10 assigned to the train as back up power and it tends to be coupled to the rear of the train, the livery is predominantly Dark Chocolate which is more in line with the livery of the 7 Stars, I took a photo of one of the units at Kumamoto when I took the SL Hitoyoshi as it was used to haul the train from the deopt into the platform. 4 Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 12, 2018 Share Posted June 12, 2018 8 hours ago, kvp said: That's the locomotive. I'm looking for headlight mode pictures of the propelling control trailer on the back. The Kato description states that the tail end headlights work, so the consist could be propelled backwards by the locomotive. The car in question has 4 red tail lights (and 2 verical red strips) and 3 headlights in a triangle formation. I'm pretty sure it has been used in propelling configuration as wikipeda has a loco picture with its tail light on and attached to the cars, so the propelling trailer was on the front. Oh I understand now. Sorry. There is a car with twin dual round tail lights with the headlights on the outside of those plus one on the upper middle like the loco. I'll can try and find a pic when home on a better computer. https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSMncXkBUuZrKNXElTlD54eGUMEfNGOmWM111F8tg4MXMagE8wZo_9iL4Pn Link to comment
kvp Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 8 hours ago, katoftw said: Oh I understand now. Sorry. There is a car with twin dual round tail lights with the headlights on the outside of those plus one on the upper middle like the loco. I'll can try and find a pic when home on a better computer. Actually there are two cars, one on each end. There are lots of pictures of them on the net, but i can't find one where the headlights are actually on, instead of the tail lights. Imho there should be some, as wikipedia shows the locomotive seemingly propelling the cars into a station with its tail lights on. The other end of the train probably had the headlights on. ps: i don't see any wipers on the end glasses (they might be just hidden), so long term running with the cars on the front might not be possible, but shunting is Link to comment
Fenway Park Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Does the Seven Stars route include the Tateno switchback? Link to comment
Yavianice Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 2 minutes ago, Fenway Park said: Does the Seven Stars route include the Tateno switchback? Looking at the wikipedia page, it does not appear to use the Tateno switchback. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Stars_in_Kyushu#Route Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) It used to before the landslide killed the Hohi line. One of the original route was Hakata to Yufuin using Kyudai Line, Yufuin to Miyasaki using Nippo Line, Miyazaki to Kagoshima using Nippo Line, Kagoshima to Kumamoto using Hiatsu Line, Kumamoto to Yufuin using Hohi Line, back to Hakata using Kyudai line. edit// I just explained the 4 day trip on the wiki link by Yavianice. Edited June 13, 2018 by katoftw Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 hours ago, kvp said: Actually there are two cars, one on each end. There are lots of pictures of them on the net, but i can't find one where the headlights are actually on, instead of the tail lights. Imho there should be some, as wikipedia shows the locomotive seemingly propelling the cars into a station with its tail lights on. The other end of the train probably had the headlights on. ps: i don't see any wipers on the end glasses (they might be just hidden), so long term running with the cars on the front might not be possible, but shunting is three minute in... 2 Link to comment
katoftw Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 53 minutes ago, Fenway Park said: Does the Seven Stars route include the Tateno switchback? Link to comment
Yavianice Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 The Seven Stars in Kyushu is sometimes also pushed/assisted by an ordinary livery DE10 which looks very off in my opinion. 1 Link to comment
kvp Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 3 hours ago, katoftw said: three minute in... Thank You! So the lights are not for continous running but for switchbacks and shunting. They are quite bright... For the model, this allows some backwards running for layouts that have a terminus without a runaround. Link to comment
Fenway Park Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Thanks for the replies and video link.The Seven Stars crossed a local train on the line in a cab ride video but this was before the current closure. Lovely train but too modern for my layout. Link to comment
Das Steinkopf Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Yavianice said: The Seven Stars in Kyushu is sometimes also pushed/assisted by an ordinary livery DE10 which looks very off in my opinion. The video is dated 1/10/2013 which means that this footage of its inaugural run, since then the 8 surviving JR Kyushu DE10's have been painted in the Dark Chocolate/Black livery, they are the following numbers 1195, 1206, 1207, 1209, 1638, 1753, 1755 and 1756. Edited June 13, 2018 by Das Steinkopf Additional Information 2 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 Does this mean that when the passengers look out the big viewing window at the back of the train, all they can see is an ugly DE10?? 1 1 2 Link to comment
Densha Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 You don't call a DE10 ugly. 3 1 3 Link to comment
warnerj01 Posted June 13, 2018 Share Posted June 13, 2018 (edited) Anyone else see that the Kyoto Kato shop is releasing a Kato DCC Turntable https://www.katomodels-kyoto.com/product-page/電動ターンテーブル-dcc化特製品-受注製作品 Sometimes the translation doesn't work. Edited June 13, 2018 by warnerj01 1 Link to comment
nah00 Posted June 14, 2018 Share Posted June 14, 2018 Ok so dumb question: Kato DCC friendly mean I just drop a decoder in the DF200 and one in each of the passenger cars for the lighting, right? This is seriously tempting me from my narrow path of JR East/Hokkaido... Link to comment
nartak Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 English brochure for Seven Stars in Kyushu from KATO. 2 2 Link to comment
Welshbloke Posted June 15, 2018 Share Posted June 15, 2018 Interesting point in the English version of the poster about the new RhB pack. It makes reference to "luggage car", "classic diner" and "timber wagon" appearing in passenger trains. Hopefully a hint of what Kato might release in future! 1 Link to comment
nartak Posted June 16, 2018 Share Posted June 16, 2018 And sorry I missed to post this earlier. 3 Link to comment
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