bill937ca Posted September 30, 2023 Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Kato’s My Tram Classic will be out in December. https://www.katomodels.com/product/n/mytram_classic It is based on the four-window trams built according to the guidelines of the Verbands öffentlicher Verkehrsbetriebe (VöV) (Association of Public Transport Companies) in West Germany as tram cars and sidecars from 1952 to 1958. Its car body corresponded to that of the superstructure car and was essentially based on the war tram car (KSW) of the 1940s, but in contrast to it had four windows on each side. These cars were built reclaimed war damaged chassis (as was done in other European countries). These were the last vehicles that were purchased in a combination of railcar and sidecar. Then the era of articulated railcars had began. About 270 tram cars and 120 sidecars were built. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Verbandswagen_(Straßenbahn) This was time of every country having its own tram car builder. The Association tram cars were built by the dominate West German tram builder Duwag. Similar four-wheel, boxy cars were found in Germany and other countries during the 50s and later: Post-war West Germany KSW East Germany Gotha Poland Konstal N I do not have a list of where Association tram cars operated but photos document Heidelberg Frankfurt am Main Freiburg, Lubeck and Rheinbahn (Dusseldorf). There was a Type 1 and Type 2 Association tram. The Kato release is a Type 1 with generally boxy lines and squared windows. HSB 80 is an example of a Type 2 with less severe corner windows. https://www.bahnbilder.de/bild/deutschland~strassenbahn~rnv-oeg-heidelberg-ludwigshafen-mannheim/274465/triebwagen-80-bj-1956waggonfabrik-heinrich-fuchsheidelberg.html There was also a second type of similar tram called the Umbauwagen or conversion tram. The Hannover / Hiroshima tram produced by Kato is of this type. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umbauwagen Colors Tram colors but not all these locations ran Verbandswagen trams. Blue and white: Hamburg, Munich, Krakow, Zurich Red & white: Vienna, Lodz, Poland in the 1950s Green & white: Poznan Yellow & white: Stuttgart, Lisbon Operation This type of tram was operated as three car sets well into the 70s and 80s in Europe. A few examples: Prague until1974, Vienna until 1988 and Poznan 1992. I expect this Kato tram release will have snap-on drawbars just like the Pocket Line tram. But, alas the Pocket Line trams only on one end of the tram. Both ends would allow up to three car sets or double traction for keeping these pesky four-wheelers from stalling over switches and crossovers. We will see. Edited September 30, 2023 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Verbandswagen videos. A lot of wheel squeal probably because of solid steel wheels. This is the type of tram Kato is offering. Edited September 30, 2023 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Now for comparison here is a Wiener Linen Type A in Vienna. These cars arrived from the plant where KSW cars were built in 1944. without trucks or motors. Between 1945 and 1949 these trams gradually entered service with either new or existing motors. The window arrangement is different than the Verbandswagen trams and the step is outside the body. https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriegsstraßenbahnwagen Video by hamsterhamster2002 Edited September 30, 2023 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) Konstal N was built in Poland from 1948 to 1956. it is essentially a knock-off of the German KSW. Today several are preserved in Krakow, Poznan and other Polish cities. The type N has enclosed steps, but truck cut outs unlike the Verbandswagen. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konstal_N Museum sets in Krakow. Video by Lukaszwo - Transport Movies Edited September 30, 2023 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted September 30, 2023 Author Share Posted September 30, 2023 (edited) These video step back in time to the 1988 in Poznan. Three car Konstal N sets are still running. Homes were heated by coal and buildings were covered by soot. Trams stopped in the middle of the street. No barrier free boarding in those days. Cars were free to drive by open tram doors. Video by sebo666666 There's another longer video which can't be embedded by the creator's choice. It givea a better picture of some ot things I mentioned above. To view it you need to view the link below. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtvHaCl7iF0&t=333s Edited September 30, 2023 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
brill27mcb Posted January 31, 2024 Share Posted January 31, 2024 Hobby Search Japan now has received the 4 new "My Tram Classic" 2-axle motor/trailer pairs (with the improved power chassis). Rich K. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted January 31, 2024 Author Share Posted January 31, 2024 (edited) Let's see if its set up so we can run a three car train with a motor and two trailers. I think not judging by the body. CORRECTION: Looks possible by HS detail photos. Edited February 1, 2024 by bill937ca Link to comment
Robsr Posted February 2, 2024 Share Posted February 2, 2024 Waiting for mine to arrive, can’t wait as I’ve ordered two yellow units. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 5, 2024 Author Share Posted February 5, 2024 As of this morning all four variations are again in stock at Hobby Search and probably other outlets. Link to comment
brill27mcb Posted February 5, 2024 Share Posted February 5, 2024 (edited) Given the current exchange rate, these are the bargains of the century for N-gauge trams! So I ordered the whole 4-color rainbow, and earlier today my package was last reported apparently sitting in a dark container at Tokyo International ("TOKYO INT V CONTAINER 1, JAPAN") two days ago. I just checked again and they have now turned up in Jamaica - Jamaica, New York that is. Rich K. Edited February 5, 2024 by brill27mcb 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 6, 2024 Author Share Posted February 6, 2024 (edited) I'm happy. I have created my first three car train. A motor and two trailers. Pardon the condition of the layout. It's been on extended hiatus since I hurt my surgically repaired knee and while having surgery for a tumor. The knee came back with 8 days of Advil. But I'm OK. Just not motivated right now. Trailers are coupled with drawbars. There are connectors at the back of the motor and at both ends of the trailers. There are signboards included for the tram and trailers plus stickers. I find these stickers very uninspiring. I was anticipating something with color logos. Those are the signboards (above) and the stickers (below). More photos. Edited February 6, 2024 by bill937ca 3 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 6, 2024 Author Share Posted February 6, 2024 (edited) For those not familiar here is a Wien strassenbahn with a form of rooftop signboard--in this case promoting the tram museum. Edited February 6, 2024 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
brill27mcb Posted February 6, 2024 Share Posted February 6, 2024 Thanks for the photos, Bill, especially of the coupling bar arrangement. Canadians on this list are no longer allowed to make jokes about slow package and mail delivery in Canada. My package is still in Jamaica (N.Y.)... Rich K. 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 6, 2024 Author Share Posted February 6, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, brill27mcb said: Canadians on this list are no longer allowed to make jokes about slow package and mail delivery in Canada. My package is still in Jamaica (N.Y.)... Rich K. 😜 You have four colors coming which might have slowed down USPS. 😁 Just too bright!! Hah, I ordered the first of two Yellow trains last night. Edited February 7, 2024 by bill937ca Link to comment
railsquid Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 (edited) 5 hours ago, bill937ca said: Those are the signboards (above) and the stickers (below). Looks like they didn't proof-read the German one, it was probably intended to read "Zirkus im Stadtpark". Also not sure about a '3rd World Tour "Laugh"' ;). Edited February 7, 2024 by railsquid 1 Link to comment
MeTheSwede Posted February 7, 2024 Share Posted February 7, 2024 And Eastern Green River Tram? I've heard of the concept of a river tram, but then it didn't ran on track... 1 Link to comment
mr bachmann Posted February 8, 2024 Share Posted February 8, 2024 Interesting so far , starting a tram/bus layout combined with railroad connection . Kato trams on order from Plaza , will also look into re-motor Bachmann trolleys with Tomix/Kato chassis . Keep up the good modeling . 1 Link to comment
Robsr Posted February 9, 2024 Share Posted February 9, 2024 My two yellow units arrived today. They won’t be run permanently but are a not to Lisbon trams. It’s probably my favourite place outside the UK so couldn’t resist getting a couple. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 9, 2024 Author Share Posted February 9, 2024 (edited) 7 hours ago, Robsr said: My two yellow units arrived today. They won’t be run permanently but are a not to Lisbon trams. It’s probably my favourite place outside the UK so couldn’t resist getting a couple. Very close to a Carris' ligerio' or lightweight. It was projected as an 'edgy' design, although some called them inelegant. Nickname was 'caixote' or crate. Also known as box trams. There were at least 131 single truck 'caixotes' built between 1947 and 1964, plus 100 similar trailers built 1952-1957. Carris motor 749 and trailer 101 in the Museu Carris in Lisbon. I've ordered a yellow pair to commemorate past trips to Lisbon. These cars were retired in the 1990s. Edited February 10, 2024 by bill937ca 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 22, 2024 Author Share Posted February 22, 2024 (edited) Having fun playing with the toys. For the first time I am running double traction with two motor cars. Its real rough ride over the Tomix Wide Tram modified turnouts on the inner track. On the outer track its smooth running all the way. The weak link in all this is the delicate drawbar. Still seeking spares. That track rises up at the turnout. Pushing it down doesn't work, so I may have to pull the whole thing up. Can't remeember where I was then work stopped on the layout. Running at "bat-out-of-hell" speed on the inner loop, the only speed at which it consistently ran without derailing. Edited February 22, 2024 by bill937ca Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 22, 2024 Author Share Posted February 22, 2024 With double traction and three-car trains I am happy with these little trams. They fulfill all my desires for this product. 3 Link to comment
brill27mcb Posted February 22, 2024 Share Posted February 22, 2024 Bill, check that the turnout and the piece of track ahead of it are joined together properly. There seems to be a gap there, and the trams seem to start hopping before they actually reach the points. The track piece ahead also looks higher up than the one next to it. Rich K. 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 23, 2024 Author Share Posted February 23, 2024 Thanks Rich. I adjusted the track and now they run much better. 2 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted February 23, 2024 Author Share Posted February 23, 2024 One other note. I ran a double-header of tram plus trailer x 2 on the outer loop and except at the slowest speed the two trains stayed spaced apart quite evenly. 3 Link to comment
mr bachmann Posted February 23, 2024 Share Posted February 23, 2024 On 2/8/2024 at 5:14 PM, mr bachmann said: Interesting so far , starting a tram/bus layout combined with railroad connection . Kato trams on order from Plaza , will also look into re-motor Bachmann trolleys with Tomix/Kato chassis . Keep up the good modeling . Order arrived within a week (UK) , since order more track and tram also arrived , pleased and recommend Plaza .😀 Link to comment
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