cteno4 Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 i do now see i had a few assumptions wrong on the larger scale store costs. the ebay/paypal can get down to 20% on the small stuff (i was assuming the higher paypal and listing per item fees which pushed the percentage way up, but they now have an alternates for stores and small purchases), so lots more there. assuming $2/hr then fulfillment would probably be 30 cents and many of these small items like you say may only be 10 cent cost to them so there is a decent margin in there if shipping is not too bad. china post has a bulk rate for this sort of stuff for them im sure. it is all going to one destination in the shipping country then their responsible for the rest. and found this Read Full Report - Office of Inspector General | United ... turns out it looks like the usps is cutting a sweetheart deal on these little packages from china to us from ebay. i guess its cheap for them as they all come into a central point and have all the electronic tracking on them that makes it much cheaper and easier for usps to route cheaply. this is the big thing that gives the extra profit margin to these sellers. this way undercuts us sellers as its getting impossible to ship anything small anymore for less than a dollar here w/in the states. like you say its retail as long as you can make a profit! and doing a small transaction in china is more like doing a 5x larger transaction here in terms of money. jeff 1 Link to comment
Davo Dentetsu Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Another mess of an ad. N scale pic, HO title, description of... something entirely different.http://www.ebay.com/itm/North-Star-Kato-HO-Scale-1-311-JR-EF510-500-Electric-Locomotive-Type-Japan-/121383401254?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item1c4303b726 Link to comment
chinbeard Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 No longer listed but I saw a B-Train on Ebay.de with a BIN price of £2,300, I know rare items can gain a great deal of value but surely this price is ridiculous ? Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 Can't imagine why they bother with prices like that, I can see double or triple the price to fish for the person that just wants it and money is not an option and just happens to be no cheaper ones at the time, but £2300 is laughable for a btrain... Jeff Link to comment
lurkingknight Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 from what I've read elsewhere on some ridiculous pricing is that in order to avoid removing an out of stock item and having to relist it (it costs extra money) the seller just jacks up the price to something ridiculous so people won't buy it, but they don't lose any money by having to relist and pay the ebay fees. Then when the item gets restocked, they lower the price back down. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share Posted October 7, 2014 ahh now that makes sense. surprising that ebay has not closed that loophole! it does make ebay look a little silly with ridiculous pricing like that even though its the sellers doing it. jeff Link to comment
kvp Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 A common fix i've seen on other sites is that when you change the price, it's considered a relist and it's a fixed % of the new price. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 15, 2015 Share Posted March 15, 2015 Just dropping this here, the Tomix E1 Max Old colour full consist ended with a whopping 30,000yen on Yahoo Auctions. Amazing... http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r125360127 I knew we had a discussion on Kato & Tomix E1 Max before about which model is more correct etc. but just couldn't find it.. Link to comment
katoftw Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Just dropping this here, the Tomix E1 Max Old colour full consist ended with a whopping 30,000yen on Yahoo Auctions. Amazing... http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r125360127 I knew we had a discussion on Kato & Tomix E1 Max before about which model is more correct etc. but just couldn't find it.. Is it? You pay more than that for a W7 or E7 12 car set now. Link to comment
1954G Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 I agree with katoftw on this. New Tomix E1 shinkansen sets are neither in stock nor up for pre-order right now, so 30,000 for a good quality used example isn't unreasonable. But check this out. http://page.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/194260369 No matter how rare this train is, the price is C R A Z Y. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Oh the 700T. Yes that's rare. Well willing buyers willing sellers. Nonetheless glad I finally gotten my E1 Max old colour so i'm happy, even if it is prototypically wrong.. Link to comment
E6系 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Hello, Actually, the E1 is a good price at ¥30,000. I have seen them sell for over ¥40,000. The reason is because two cars are particularly difficult to get. They were only sold separately and are required to make up a prototypical set. Car 2844 E158-100, and 2845 E159 are quite difficult to find, but are required to have a full consist. The other cars are widely available in 92059/60 and 92212/3. 1 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted March 16, 2015 Share Posted March 16, 2015 Thank you E6 san! That was the answer I was looking for! :) Link to comment
E6系 Posted March 17, 2015 Share Posted March 17, 2015 Also ... I have two full consists ... one based on 92059/60 and the other based on 929212/3. :D Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 (edited) Every good model railway forum should have its own thread dedicated to Ebay insanity... So here goes.... An unpowered 5 car Kato E233 add-on (増結) set (presumably 10-1270) going for GBP 265 (ca. USD 400 or in real money JPY 50000)? Sure. Count me in. Especially when Kato's RRP is a whopping 14200 yen + tax. Edited May 28, 2015 by railsquid Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Chinese? Japanese? All the same. Link to comment
kvp Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 That's the same seller who got a few posts in an older thread about the same topic. Just a few comments from the buyers: item not received refused to send another'no stock' though 5 avail on their ebay HOPELESS! Seems you cant buy from this seller! you do get refunded though....OMG! Do these people actually have anything to sell? So it looks like he doesn't stock anything, just go and buy one from whatever source with the money. This is why shipping takes around two months, so the seller has time to get something cheap and post it. Unless he manages to sell something that is not available anymore, in which case just refunds the buyer or sends something similar. Think of it as a very slow, very unreliable, very expensive private shopping service, which may or may not work. ps: I'm aware that you don't have to be in posession of the items you sell on ebay when you sell them, you just have to ship them within a few months or refund the buyers. Still, i would say this practice is morally not right. Link to comment
Densha Posted May 28, 2015 Share Posted May 28, 2015 Every good model railway forum should have its own thread dedicated to Ebay insanity... There already was. Two actually. So I merged them. :) Link to comment
cteno4 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 Every once and a while I run across a Japanese ebay shop selling stuff to the rest of the world with some items at like 5-10x retail price for stuff in stock at easily accessible sources, while other listing are at close to retail prices. I've emailed a few to ask why so high in price to see if it was an error, but never an answer and price remains the same. At least you get free SAL Shipping! Any idea of what gives? Jeff http://www.ebay.com/itm/N-Gauge-Structure-kit-Plant-Factory-Equipments-B-Japanese-JPN-/301731541805?hash=item464099f32d http://www.ebay.com/itm/KATO-N-gauge-24-312-Turf-Bright-Green-Model-Railroads-Model-Trains-w-Tracking-/291256727647?hash=item43d040f85f http://www.ebay.com/itm/Diorama-Collection-Scene-human-024-People-shrine-12-set-Japan-/301728484847?hash=item46406b4def Link to comment
railsquid Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Shipping: Does not ship to Japan Dayuuuum... Why? Presumably because there are enough suckers out there... Though I've heard rumour that some retailers temporarily set stupidly high prices on items so they don't incur costs by de- then re-listing them. Not sure if that's the case here. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted September 6, 2015 Author Share Posted September 6, 2015 It's odd that only a few are so high and stuff easily found. I don't get what the resisting fees would work unless they just hope that a sucker bites, but these odd items? Just sees odd... Jeff Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Willing buyer, willing seller... Some with no experience and did not want to go around sourcing or searching the net will probably buy them off directly since it is already inclusive of shipping... But wow the price of that Greenmax structure is about the price of a nice 4-car basic set train... Link to comment
railsquid Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 For 11,560 I could wander over to Akihabara and come away with a decent bookset from Pochi or somewhere. Link to comment
katoftw Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 I saw on ebay a Tomix 7-11/Family Mart for $198USD this morning. Link to comment
kvp Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 This is usually a typo. Recently i've seen a buch of static train models, each for 1.99 euro, except one which was 199 euro. Some sllers also mark their out of stock items this way, so nobody would buy them, but they still don't have to delist them. 1 Link to comment
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