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Strange Lima N-scale models


martin67

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Hi everybody,

 

I must say, I love strange, funny and extraordinary models (that's why I'm a Lima collector :cheesy). A while ago I managed to buy an Italian type D341 Diesel in New Haven RR colours. Neither was this funny thingy in the Lima catalogue, nor sold under the Lima brand name. It was included in a starter set (I presume it must have been towards the end of the 1960's) branded "Physio-Chem", along with a few New Haven coaches of European origin. The complete set is very rare, single items are rare, too, but show up a little more often. Mine came to me unboxed without coaches. Nevertheless, it's a unique loco from the Lima history.

 

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Martin

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Lima were notorious for this in N and HO. Possibly the funniest was an articulated three axle car transporter (something never seen in the UK at the time) loaded with what were obviously Mercedes Benz cars, and branded "British Leyland" on the transporter!

 

I do wonder whether some of these were testing the market. If your quick repaint of an Italian model sells in the export market then it's worth spending money to tool a proper model. Lima went on to make some rather spiffy models in N which don't embarrass themselves today if given a few tweaks and a repaint, witness the GWR horsebox and Siphon utility van.

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On 11/9/2018 at 2:26 AM, martin67 said:

Hi everybody,

 

I must say, I love strange, funny and extraordinary models (that's why I'm a Lima collector :cheesy). A while ago I managed to buy an Italian type D341 Diesel in New Haven RR colours. Neither was this funny thingy in the Lima catalogue, nor sold under the Lima brand name. It was included in a starter set (I presume it must have been towards the end of the 1960's) branded "Physio-Chem", along with a few New Haven coaches of European origin. The complete set is very rare, single items are rare, too, but show up a little more often. Mine came to me unboxed without coaches. Nevertheless, it's a unique loco from the Lima history.

 


 

Martin

 

Interesting. Can you show some of the other models in your collection?

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I too have a Lima N gauge D341, altough in it's original F.S. colors: chestnut brown and olive green.

 

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but it's still wacky for a number of resons:

 

- the model is hold togheter by just one screw, located (and well visible) on the roof!

 

- it has the  bogeys of the E424 electric locomotive.

 

(little note: the first two locomotives in N gauge made by Lima in 1966, were the D341 we're looking at here, and the E424, a small Bo'Bo' electric locomotive intended for local  passenger trains. It happened from time to time, during the manufacturing of these two locos for starter sets, that the bogeys could get confused and swapped, so it's not uncommon to find D341s with E424s bogeys and vice-versa! Such thing was, altough, limited only to toy-like train sets: models designated for serious railway modelling had much stricter quality control).

 

- the grey motor turbocharger vent on the top is too high, of the wrong color, and it's located on the opposite side of where it should be!

 

You can clearly see here where it should be in reality 

(this was an early error made by the designers, wich never got corrected anyway)

 

(My D341 came with a full starter set containing also tracks, a blue-ivory CWIL pullman coach and an F.S. UIC-X baggage car in the 1960s slate grey color)

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Hello. i just managed to find a d341 new haven too. it is not in excellent condition. however it is always a bit particular piece. however what i can't figure out is if a rare piece with a nice value or none of that

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That's Lima from the "ancient time"

 

I remember this brand, I was 16, 41 years ago. It was really affordable for N gauge but ... not very realistic compared to Rocco, Minitri, Fleischmann, etc..

 

JM

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Giugiaro

Well, at least kids could play with those cheap models without causing a huge pain in the heart if they managed to derail them, or worse.

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marknewton
On 1/18/2019 at 5:43 AM, Socimi said:

the grey motor turbocharger vent on the top is too high, of the wrong color, and it's located on the opposite side of where it should be

 

I've always thought the D341s were good looking locos. If I was ever tempted to model a European railway I think it'd be FS, with a few of these handsome little units. That fitting you describe as a turbocharger vent is actually the radiator fan, by the way.

 

All the best,

 

Mark.

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Yeah all the Lima stuff we got over in the us in the 70s was pretty rough, but it was solid and worked. None of it was expensive and I doubt they have become much of collectors items, that’s usually the nicer stuff.

 

cheers,

 

jeff

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Giugiaro
11 minutes ago, cteno4 said:

... I doubt they have become much of collectors items, that’s usually the nicer stuff.

 

Unless they've released a vehicle that never got a nicer release.

 

cough cough HO CP Class 2600/2620

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Welshbloke

I can beat these now. Found a few on ebay...

 

A BR MK1 coach lettered "Pennsylvania" on the roof, also seen with "Santa Fe"

 

Generic sort-of German coaches and CIWL pullman cars also lettered "Santa Fe"

 

I didn't buy either as frankly my interest in weird N gauge from the dawn of time doesn't extend to the prices being asked.

 

Lima also used a miniature version of their "pancake" motor in N, which produced some oddly scaled items where it wouldn't fit. Most of their British locos ended up over height and width but too short. Running qualities are best left unexplored...

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railsquid

I always wondered what line of thinking lead to Lima marking their chocolate/cream Mk1 coaches as "Great Western"...

 

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Lima Mk1 coach "Great Western" by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/railsquid/]Rail Squid[/url], on Flickr

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Welshbloke

They did that in OO too.

 

I do wonder if they found one on a preserved line and didn't realise it was wrong? I know the early days of preservation saw all sorts, in fact I think the Paignton-Dartmouth line still has a few DMU centre cars painted in GWR livery they never carried in service.

 

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Lima were more toys than models. Anyway, I played a lot with them when I was young as it was really affordable. 

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On 8/12/2022 at 1:00 AM, Dinho said:

Hello. i just managed to find a d341 new haven too. it is not in excellent condition. however it is always a bit particular piece. however what i can't figure out is if a rare piece with a nice value or none of that

 

Yes, it's a relatively rare model and very sought-after - a nice collectors' novelty!

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