Stephenson's Rocket in N Scale - and other tiny trains

[gavino200]

A shell for a Ruston switcher on Shapeways. The following quote from the page linked below.

 

"Ruston 48DS

This is 3D printed shell for an N scale version of the ubiquitous Ruston 48DS shunting locomotive. It is designed to fit the TU-7T chassis from Japan which is about the only decent chassis small enough. You will also need some lead or tungsten weight to put over the chassis and to do a spot of filing to make it all fit as it's not quite possible to print it to fit as is."

 

https://www.shapeways.com/product/YNF9TTTRV/ruston-48ds-n-scale-about-6-quot-1mm-wider-than-acc?optionId=5604275&li=curatedproductGroup

 

A completed kit from a scratchbuilding club website.

 

Edited August 26, 2018 by gavino200

[Welshbloke]

Plaza Japan have a few tiny 9mm gauge mechanisms, I've often wondered whether one would fit under the "Thomas and Friends Minis" blind bag locos, specifically Toby as a tram engine is essentially hollow and the skirts will hide the lack of valve gear. The wagons are about right for N if you replace the toy chassis with a Peco one, so it shouldn't look completely out of place.

 

Tomytec offer some little 4w caricatures of JR stock under the hakotetsu banner, the EF81 Twilight Express might make a good joke shunter.

[kvp]

12 minutes ago, gavino200 said:

There's a tiny n scale switcher selling on this site for $46. No real details given though.

http://www.bbmgroup.com/sprog/shop.html

It's described as a japanese industrial shunter a few pages deeper. There are similar types available in kit and assembled form on HS.

[gavino200]

23 minutes ago, kvp said:

 There are similar types available in kit and assembled form on HS.

 

Thanks. They list these interesting little things. (sold out)

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10363763

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10351905

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10327363

Edited August 26, 2018 by gavino200

[Welshbloke]

So it turns out a Hakotetsu/Kotetsu (both words seem to be used) EF81 and motor is about £35 from Amazon. That gives you the powered loco and a similarly shrunken 24 Series sleeper. The bodywork is self adhesive labels on a plain plastic body (you get one with the stickers and one with the motor), and you need a pair of Tomytec wheelsets for the coach. Might have to order one!

[gavino200]

14 minutes ago, Welshbloke said:

So it turns out a Hakotetsu/Kotetsu (both words seem to be used) EF81 and motor is about £35 from Amazon. That gives you the powered loco and a similarly shrunken 24 Series sleeper. The bodywork is self adhesive labels on a plain plastic body (you get one with the stickers and one with the motor), and you need a pair of Tomytec wheelsets for the coach. Might have to order one!

 

Do you have a link?

[Welshbloke]

Try this for the EF81:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10300869

 

And this for the motor:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10300862

 

There are other wraps available, including some Shinkansen which don't really work as a box!

[gavino200]

45 minutes ago, Welshbloke said:

Try this for the EF81:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10300869

 

And this for the motor:

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10300862

 

There are other wraps available, including some Shinkansen which don't really work as a box!

 

Thanks. I'm not a fan of "sticker windows" but that mechanism could prove useful for something.

[gavino200]

German Glaskasten Locomotive Royal Bavarian LN - Minitrix

 

https://www.ebay.com/p/Minitrix-12017-N-scale-German-Glaskasten-Locomotive-Royal-Bavarian-LN/5017206188?iid=292692895626

 

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/trix-minitrix-11087-scale-german-1885604806

 

Same loco, different livery

 

https://www.trix.de/products/min-details/article/12212/?no_cache=1

 

And a slight variation the "T2 Omnibus Altona"  6081 (No BR equiv.), Ep1 (Minitrix 12005

 

http://kpev.blogspot.com/2008/06/minitrix-12005-t2.html

Edited August 27, 2018 by gavino200

[gavino200]

This Minitrix Adler is quite tempting. I like the display case and the figures. But I'm still researching.....so I can resist.....for now....

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/MINITRIX-N-GAUGE-LIMITED-EDITION-DER-ADLER-SET-6H-/131051237714

 

Edit: but for 100 bucks.Alas....my resistance stood no chance...

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/123293060263

Edited August 26, 2018 by gavino200

[chadbag]

3 hours ago, gavino200 said:

There's a tiny n scale switcher selling on this site for $46. No real details given though.

 

http://www.bbmgroup.com/sprog/shop.html

 

 

 

 

They actually sell the mechanism for it for $33 as well, which would be better for the scratch builder

 

[gavino200]

59 minutes ago, chadbag said:

 

 

......which would be better for the scratch builder

 

 

I wouldn't exactly call myself a scratch builder yet. Just a cocky novice who loves to tinker.

[gavino200]

My very own little Adler arrived today. I like it. It could probably use some extra detailing at some stage. But due to it's very tiny size it actually looks pretty good 'as is'. I really need to set my DC track up soon so I can run it.

 

[gavino200]

This loco isn't really quite "tiny" enough to include. But it is primitive and interesting. Also, the site has useful links for places to acquire small chassis for modelling projects.

 

http://www.randgust.com/prod02.htm

Edited August 30, 2018 by gavino200

[gavino200]

I found this great resource on the early days of the railroad. The entire book is online for free.

 

http://tringhistory.tringlocalhistorymuseum.org.uk/Railway/index.htm

 

Just take a look at this replica of Timothy Hackworth’s Sans Pareil on the page linked below. Tell me this isn't the cutest little loco you've ever seen.

 

http://tringhistory.tringlocalhistorymuseum.org.uk/Railway/c12_locomotive_(II).htm

Edited August 30, 2018 by gavino200

[Welshbloke]

Got my Arnold Tm II out for a run

 

 

Despite having only four wheels it's surprisingly reliable. It's currently trundling around an oval at a speed which doesn't look unrealistic and has no problems with the #4 points.

[gavino200]

6 hours ago, Welshbloke said:

Got my Arnold Tm II out for a run

 

Quote

 

 

Despite having only four wheels it's surprisingly reliable. It's currently trundling around an oval at a speed which doesn't look unrealistic and has no problems with the #4 points.

 

It's a beauty! Thanks for sharing. Nice to know about it's performance too. Someday I'll track one of those down.

[gavino200]

Interesting Japanese tin model of the Rocket. Made by Sankei no less.

 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-1960s-tinplate-stephenson-s-rocket-toy-by-Japanese-maker-SANKEI/163242675518?hash=item2602058d3e:g:2RAAAOSwtRlbkQIr

 

I decided to buy a static HO model to get a bit of a feel for what might be involved in making a working n scale model. I also found a mock "Hayne's Manual" for the loco that might be useful.

 

https://www.abebooks.com/Stephensons-Rocket-Manual-Gibbon-Richard/19991745488/bd?cm_mmc=gmc-_-new-_-PLA-_-v01

 

https://www.hattons.co.uk/34861/Dapol_C046_Stephenson_s_Rocket_steam_locomotive_plastic_kit/StockDetail.aspx

Edited September 10, 2018 by gavino200

[gavino200]

My "Haynes Manual" for the Rocket just arrived. It's quite an amazing book, with every conceivable detail about the loco. It'll be a great reference for this distant future project.

 

[cteno4]

Gavin,

 

i expect to see a working n scale model from you soon! You will have a position anywhere if you just take that in and show them the working model!

 

jeff

[Welshbloke]

The Dapol kit is from very old tooling which has been through a few hands, I'm not sure whether it started with Kitmaster or Airfix. Expect a lot of parts cleaning and quite soft plastic, which they use to reduce the stress on the old tooling.

[kvp]

Actually looking at the drive train of the locomotive, there are very few moving parts in it. You could in theory motorize the 00 kit with very few modifications as the Stephenson type valve gear is very much hidden behind the main piston assemblies and is connected to eccentrics mounted on the main drive axle. If you omit that in N, you only have the two main drive rods with one sliding and two rotating joints. And that is pretty much it and the 3 different axle types.

 

 

[Welshbloke]

You'd need to build a chassis from scratch and find suitable driving wheels (the trailing pair under the footplate wouldn't be too hard, but the drivers were huge compared to later locos).

 

If you want a powered Rocket in OO then Triang/Hornby made one. It's a bit clunky as the motors of the day didn't really work with tiny early locos, but the later Hornby releases had better paintwork. They offered enclosed coaches by way of rolling stock to go with it.

 

They also made a huge 3.5" gauge live steam version which I have! Accessories were limited to track, points, and a coach.

[cteno4]

Gavin will have it scratch built and running under steam in n scale within a year, I have confidence in him! 😜

 

jeff

[gavino200]

19 minutes ago, cteno4 said:

Gavin will have it scratch built and running under steam in n scale within a year, I have confidence in him! 😜

 

jeff

 

I'll wait till you get your laser cutter. I may need some important parts cut. 😛