Atobit Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Hi Everyone, I'd like to add a transfer table to the layout I'm planning. I can't pictures of transfer table that are use in Japan, if there is any? Do you have link or pictures you could share? Regards Claude Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Link to comment
railsquid Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 What is a "transfer table"?? Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 IIRC 'transfer table' is called a 'traverser' in UK English (Japanese railway terminology: トラバーサー). And yes, they can be found all around major depots of any large railway company or places where there is no space to spare (Arakawa line depot). 2 Link to comment
Atobit Posted October 13, 2015 Author Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) Thanks Tony, it is what I was looking for! I was not sure about the Japanese name but now it is clear. I had a quick look in Google, in particular in the Kinetsu network, seems there is no standard in the design. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Edited October 13, 2015 by Atobit Link to comment
railsquid Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 IIRC 'transfer table' is called a 'traverser' in UK English (Japanese railway terminology: トラバーサー). Aha, makese sense, I was thinking along completely different lines. I don't recall hearing about any in the UK, though I've seen pictures of one in France. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Aha, makese sense, I was thinking along completely different lines. I don't recall hearing about any in the UK, though I've seen pictures of one in France. Crewe had/has one: 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Toni, Thanks for the kanji term! Lots more photo references. I have a severe fascination with transfer tables! Jeff Link to comment
railsquid Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Crewe had/has one: Cool. I still have absolutely no memories of them, but then at the time I was actively interested in British railways, the internet was still in the future so I guess there was a lot I never heard about. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Thanks for the kanji term! Lots more photo references. We should make a database list of UK US and Japanese railway terminology equivalents... An open source Google Docs maybe? ;) 3 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Ohhhh that's a great thought! Really makes searching better for us no Japanese speakers! Google translate works sometimes, but not perfect! Cheers Jeff Link to comment
stevenh Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Turntables are great... but I do love the parallelism of transfer tables and the fact that you don't need a wide arc/radius to fit one in a shunting layout. Link to comment
kvp Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Transfer tables are used the same way for parallel track sheds as turntables are used for roundhouses. Btw. there was at least one long enough to take multiple emu cars somewhere around Stewarts Lane, but i've only seen it on some old movies. Link to comment
inobu Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 (edited) I think this is what you are looking for Here is the Video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2GmZPcqiLw I was doing research as I wanted to make one. it is on my to do list. Inobu Edited October 13, 2015 by inobu 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 Same here, transfer table and long train she'd like this facility. Also want a small one for trams for ttrak, very handy there! Inobu, ha that's where the old walthers transfer table is headed to! The threaded stock drive still seems like the best mechanism. Atobit, what are you thinking of using for a mechanism? Jeff Link to comment
inobu Posted October 13, 2015 Share Posted October 13, 2015 yeah, I was trying to understand the walthers mech and came to the same conclusion threaded drive. inobu Link to comment
Atobit Posted October 14, 2015 Author Share Posted October 14, 2015 (edited) Two models were made in N scale, from Minitrix and Brawa. From the prictures I've seens, The Brawa is the one that looks closer to what I saw on pictures from Japan, though the Minitrix one seems to be more versatile. Anyway, both models are very difficult to find. If you have one of them, please let me know. if no finds, I'll have to see how I can modify/use the one from Walthers Marklin in HO, as it is the only one available in the market, per my knowledge. Edited October 14, 2015 by Atobit Link to comment
Jace Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Pullman must have had the finest transfer table ever made: http://www.pullman-museum.org/main/pfp.05.07.05.291.jpg 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 That wild! Looks like a small engine to move it. Not seen the large outrigger wheels like that. Helps keep from having such a deep pit. The minitrix and brawa come up on ebay but usually $250+ and not always in great shape. There are a couple of small companies that had produced small transfer tables in the us but not seen them in a while. There was a Japanese one as well (http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/6283-transfer-table/) that seems no longer available. walthers had the inexpensive ho cornerstone model, but that tripled in price a few years back and I'm not sure what changed in it. I had the old cornerstone that I got 10+ years back. It was a simple system with a long threaded rod running under a slot in the pit. The table had a finger that moved on the threaded rod. Then geared motor at one end onto the threaded rod. Very simple. Track power wire can up the finger and also travel thru the slot. Some of the thin girder bridge elements can be used for the sides. Jeff Link to comment
Welshbloke Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 At least one real example used overhead wires and a bow collector to power the motors. I have seen photos of one in the old GWR works at Swindon using that setup. It might be worth a browse on Google Earth for any surviving examples, I know the museums at Didcot and Crich (GWR and tramway respectively) have them. The Didcot one does seem to have a small rod-coupled 0-4-0 loco to move the table! Link to comment
kvp Posted October 14, 2015 Share Posted October 14, 2015 Another one, from the depot of the Budapest cog wheel railway: (side wheels and a funny power system) And a larger, covered one from a maintenance shop: (the 4 funny poles on top are for the three phase motors) 2 Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Today, I realised that Nanyō Bussan also has a transfer table/traverser on sale. Both in kit and pre-made form. It is however not motorised: http://www.k4.dion.ne.jp/~toa-sato/traverser.html Has also been on sale at Hobby Search, but is sold out at the moment. Edited October 16, 2015 by Toni Babelony Link to comment
Jace Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I found photos of another exceptional transfer table, this one in Hagalund, Sweden, just outside of Stockholm. The shop was built around 1930 to serve as the SJ's main electric traction backshop. Being Sweden, the transfer table is completely covered, but what a space! The shop is still there so presumably it still exists. Anyone have any contacts over there? I'd love to get into this shop... http://www.samlingsportalen.se/all/CgiText-GetRecord?Table=fg_Foton&QID=-1744454776&Formname=/all/fgblktpct.htm&Incl=0000000000051&Recnr=360 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/all/CgiText-GetRecord?Table=fg_Foton&QID=-1744454776&Formname=/all/fgblktpct.htm&Incl=0000000000051&Recnr=222 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/all/CgiText-GetRecord?Table=fg_Foton&QID=-1744454776&Formname=/all/fgblktpct.htm&Incl=0000000000051&Recnr=223 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/all/CgiText-GetRecord?Table=fg_Foton&QID=-1744454776&Formname=/all/fgblktpct.htm&Incl=0000000000051&Recnr=224 The photos all come from Trafikverket's (SJ's) archives. Beware! There are many, many outstanding photos available. Be prepared to spend some time here. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 i think there might be a small problem: Internt fel:Posten finns inte i databasen - fel i länkenKontakta administratörenBack Link to comment
velotrain Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 I got an error trying to open the links. I got to the main site, and noticed the Bilder tag, but then read, "Över 140 000 bilder", and decided I didn't want to wade through all of them. Link to comment
Jace Posted January 8, 2016 Share Posted January 8, 2016 Sorry about that. Maybe this will work. http://www.samlingsportalen.se/getitem-record?PID=SE_SJM_FG_Jvm_KDAF04447 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/getitem-record?PID=SE_SJM_FG_Jvm_KDAF04446 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/getitem-record?PID=SE_SJM_FG_Jvm_KDAF04445 http://www.samlingsportalen.se/getitem-record?PID=SE_SJM_FG_Jvm_KDAF04444 2 Link to comment
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