Kato EF65 Conundrum

[Davo Dentetsu]

I purchased a used EF65 over eBay, which was listed for parts and at a very reasonable price for doing so.

 

Looks good for a bitsa loco.  So I thought it was worth a look inside to see why it become a shade of itself.  Turns out...

 

...the motor is rather decorative.  It's pretty much cactus.  So out it came and the rest is temporarily dismantled into tubs.  So, my options are look for another motor, make up some coupler mounts to finish the unit off.  Or...
 

*broken jpeg of a cut up cab.  Ummm... I need you to imagine a perfect example of hotlinking in this spot*

 

I should probably leave that last one as a last resort... :D

Edited April 15, 2014 by Azumanga Davo

[Densha]

Dummy loco for double heading?

[Davo Dentetsu]

Dummy loco for double heading?

 

I have it free wheeling at the moment, so could do.  But I would need another EF65 for this, correct?  Or...  would I?  I'm not certain of the facts on it.

[cteno4]

whats the dead photo link? a demolition yard?!

 

jeff

[E6系]

Hello Mr Azumanga Davo,

 

So sorry, but am I to understand that you don't actually know what you bought the model for?   ... ;)

[Davo Dentetsu]

Hello Mr Azumanga Davo,

 

So sorry, but am I to understand that you don't actually know what you bought the model for?   ... ;)

 

Sort of.  :P  I knew it would either be a simple to repair job or more of a parts bin occupier.  Now that I've seen it, I'm stuck on which way to go.

[kvp]

If you can make it roll and couple, then it can be used in a consist. What else is missing besides the busted motor and the missing couplers?

[E6系]

Hello Mr Azumanga Davo,

 

Yes.  I C.  Wishful thinking, on your part.  I agree with the suggestion to convert to a dummy power car.  The couplers should be available.

[Davo Dentetsu]

If you can make it roll and couple, then it can be used in a consist. What else is missing besides the busted motor and the missing couplers?

 

It's pretty much all there.  I have a set of couplers I can whack on it.  I'll get around to it someday.

[cteno4]

Davo, 

 

I was hoping for the scrap scene! sad but real.

 

how about doing a engine yard repair scene under way?

 

jeff

[Davo Dentetsu]

Davo, 

 

I was hoping for the scrap scene! sad but real.

 

how about doing a engine yard repair scene under way?

 

jeff

I'm still tempted to do that at some point.  Everyone in this part of the world builds lovely little utopias with no scrapyards, mucky bits or general dismal areas of interest.  That's why I want to definitely recreate the oxy cutter's humble abode.

[kvp]

In the past japan didn't have scrap yards. They had disassembly factories. Currently jr east does the same, by remanufacturing old emus. (this is how some new cars for the yamanote ended up with 3 different door styles) Also, many yards around the world (including Japan) just store old stock without cutting them up. For example, you can see cars in Hungary that have burned out in WWII and are still being stored awaiting repairs. Some of them even got repaired for museum trains after only 60 years of static storage. (they had to cut down some of the trees that blocked the tracks so the cars could be towed away) So i think the best way for non rolling stock is to just store them somewhere on the layout and repair them when you have the right parts.

[EF65 1100]

May I suggest this? :laughing6:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImA0fhN5uxU

[Davo Dentetsu]

Bridge load testing I presume?  That made my brain spin on how much it bends.  :O  Cool idea though!

[EF65 1100]

Yes, that was for testing the bridge in several areas, but I thought the idea of 9 locomotives running together would appeal to you.

 

The arrangement according to the youtube video's uploader is EF65-1047+EF65-8+EF65-18+EF65-44+EF6­5-38+EF65-9+EF64-1+EF62-25+EF65-93+ｽﾊﾌ12­-143+ｺｷ525838+EF65-124

 

This test (emergency brake test) has a EF66 in the front.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXizwnjOs48

 

This one talks about the machenism that allows the extension and retraction of train track as the train crosses the bridge.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIL47k3Ip30

 

Both are good videos to watch!

[cteno4]

excellent videos ef65, thanks!

 

wonder if micro ace will ever make a "torture" train set like this! but then again you would need to model a suspension bridge as well!

 

jeff

[cteno4]

another video that popped up in the similar list. you can see the wave in the upper deck

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8L8YdFp6SMQ

 

jeff

[EF65 1100]

Somebody actually did this...

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0gq4Kst1t8

Edited May 23, 2014 by EF65 1100

[cteno4]

Oh man that is just way too cool! Excellent find ef65!

 

I've always wanted to build a suspension bridge and now I will have to use stays that will give some so there will be a little flex!

 

Amazing what you can make out of corrugated cardboard, matte knife, yard stick and a hot glue gun! Use to make big up to full scale exhibits out of bundles or corrugated cardboard.

 

Cheers

 

Jeff

[Davo Dentetsu]

It's bloody impressive!  My poor budget section of the brain is crying at the expense the locos would make. :P

[Keikyu]

Is it safe to have more than one locomotive on a track at a time? They have like 10 of them on that video at once.

[kvp]

Is it safe to have more than one locomotive on a track at a time? They have like 10 of them on that video at once.

They are connected together, so if the power supply and the bridge structure holds, then you can have as many as you could fit into the track section. An EMU with only power cars (like an old shinkansen) is essentially a train made up of passanger carrying locomotives and as long as the train stays coupled, there is no danger.

[EF65 1100]

It's bloody impressive!  My poor budget section of the brain is crying at the expense the locos would make. :P

 

Indeed. Even at 5000 yen a piece, 10 locos would cost 50000 yen, more than enough for a couple of MUs. :D

 

Oh man that is just way too cool! Excellent find ef65!

 

I've always wanted to build a suspension bridge and now I will have to use stays that will give some so there will be a little flex!

 

Amazing what you can make out of corrugated cardboard, matte knife, yard stick and a hot glue gun! Use to make big up to full scale exhibits out of bundles or corrugated cardboard.

 

Cheers

 

Jeff

 

In my opinion, the bridge would look even better with flex tracks to allow the rails bend all the way across the bridge instead of angling at the unijoiners :)

 

It may also be interesting to make use of those extension tracks to simulate the mechanism of the real bridge. :angel8:

[cteno4]

It sort of looked like they had extension tracks in there but never showed those directly extending.

 

Agreed flex track would make a much nicer wave!

 

Jeff

[Davo Dentetsu]

Oh, an update.  I am actively looking for a motor now.  However, I was thinking I may have to look at Kato USA trains second hand and get a motor out of one of them seeing they are plentiful.  Anyone knowledgeable in such things know what a good match for these motor dimensions would be?



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