Meitetsu 510/520

[bill937ca]

I came across an interesting website with articles on many of Meitetsu's older trains.

 

I didn't know that after being rebuilt for train operation in 1967, the 520s had two controllers on at least one end.  There is a photo of the two controllers side by side. One was for HL operation (when training with a 510) and the other controller was for stand-alone operation of the 520 car.

 

http://www42.tok2.com/home/c11190/meitetu520.htm

 

http://www42.tok2.com/home/c11190/meitetuiroirotop.htm

 

Another website with good photos of the Meitetsu 600 volt lines at Gifu. In one photo of 513 at the transfer station at Kurino it looks there were two train sheds, one behind the other on the shop tracks. This would explain the double crossover behind the front train shed which survived to the end of operation in 2005.

 

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/komakorokidou/folder/1023323.html?m=lc&p=1

 

 

 

[bill937ca]

More Gifu 600v lines photos and maps.

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/gifu/gifu-tram1.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/gifu/gifu-tram2.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/gifu/gifu-tram3.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/gifu/gifu-tram4.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/gifu/gifu-tram5.html

 

i'm working on a timeline and will post it later.  Leroy Demery, one of the authors of Electric Railways in Japan noted that Meitetsu lost Y1.7 billion annually (almost $17 million) on the tramway division and Y8 billion (almost $80 million) over the decade previous to the 2005 final closure.

 

Ibi line photos:

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/ibi/ibi1.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/ibi/ibi2.html 

Yes, there were two sheds at Kurono. The back one was for repairs and front one with pits was for running gear inspections.

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/ibi/ibi3.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/ibi/ibi4.html

 

Tanigumi line photos:

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F1.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F2.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F3.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F4.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F5.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F6.html

 

http://tsushima-keibendo.a.la9.jp/tanigumi/tanigumi-F7.html

Edited May 4, 2018 by bill937ca

[Kiha66]

What a neat little line!  Too bad it closed down, it looks like it would be great fun to ride.

[cteno4]

Very sweet scenes!

 

jeff

[Nick_Burman]

On 5/3/2018 at 2:42 AM, bill937ca said:

I didn't know that after being rebuilt for train operation in 1967, the 520s had two controllers on at least one end.  There is a photo of the two controllers side by side. One was for HL operation (when training with a 510) and the other controller was for stand-alone operation of the 520 car.

 

OK,  that explains how Meitetsu managed to lash up the 510s and 520s in spite of the different switching circuitry...

 

Cheers NB

[bill937ca]

In 1966 before moving to the Ibi line 510 and 520 were painted cream and green, equipped with bow collectors, fenders, and were not equipped with couplers at this time.

 

http://oimactaka.shumilog.com/2013/05/11/名鉄モ510とモ520/

 

[bill937ca]

The Ibi line was the last of Meitetsu's 600v railway lines. For years Ibi line rolling stock was a key component of Modemo's offerings with the 510s, 520s and 750s being offered numerous times between 2000 and 2012.

 

Ibi Line Timeline

 

1966

Gifu City Line and Ibi line interurbans operate separately

Ibi line (last Meitetsu 600v railway line) interurbans terminate at Chuestu Station (3.7 Km from JR Gifu)

Railway fleet restricted from City Line due to width, length and lack of steps.

 

510 & 520 trams do not have couplers and are pained cream green

 

1967

512-515 moved to railway line. Given scarlet & white paint, cross seats in 514 & 515 and pantograph for 512 & 513.

 

1967 December 17

Ibi line direct operation to Meitetsu Shin Gifu station using 510 / 520 in red and white paint

 

1968

510s converted to HL control.

511 moved to railway line.   Paint changed to scarlet & white, cross seats added, converted to four motors.

512 & 513 also converted to cross seats and four motors added.

522-526 moved to railway line. Paint changed to scarlet & white & current collector to pantograph.

525-526 converted to cross seat.

 

1968 August 5

Tanigumi branch express direct operation to Gifu City.

 

1969

522 ~ 526 have HL controller installed by 1970, making it possible to combine as 510 type control car.

 

1971

522-524 converted to cross seat

 

1974

Connected operation of 510 & 520 on the city line from December

 

1975

Scarlet paint on 510s & 520s

 

1984

March 20 – Tanigumi express abolition

October 16 - One-man shuttles on Tanigumi branch at quiet times

October 16 – One-man shuttles between Kurono and Hon-Ibi.

700s & 750s equipped with fare boxes and numbered ticket issuing machine

 

1985

Ibi Line Roster:

511-515                                  1926

522-526                                  1923

702-704                                  1927

751/2/4/5/8/9                       1928

2323, 2325, 2326, 2327        1926

23 units (including 4 2300 control trailers) all dating from the 1920s.

 

1987

770 articulated cars x 2 arrive

May 524, 525, 526 scrapped

510s win Evergreen Award from Railway Friendship Association (Tetsudo Tomokazai).

 

1988

770 x 2 arrive

Feb – Evergreen Award commemoration by painting 513-515 scarlet & white paint again

Sept 522, 523 scrapped

Oct 511, 515 scrapped

Nov – after 515 scrapped in October, 512 is painted scarlet & white

 

Remaining:

512, 513, 514

702, 703, 704

751, 752, 754, 755, 758, 759

2323, 2325, 2326, 2327

 

1992

702 scrapped

 

1997

781, 782, 783, 784 delivered

May -  2323, 2325, 2326, 2327 scrapped

 

1998

785, 786, 787 delivered

April - 703, 704, 752, 758, 759 scrapped

 

751, 754 & 755 continue to run on Hon-Ibi and Tanigumi shuttles due to intense voltage drop (voltage dropped to 300-400 volts at the end of the Tanigumi line).

 

Ibi line - railway vehicles retired, all vehicles now streetcar type (510s, 770s & 780s) all trains to Kurono operate directly on City Line

 

2000

Oct – 512 scrapped

 

2001

Sept 30 – outer end of the Ibi line (Kurono – Hon-Ibi 5.6 km) and all of Tanigumi line closed.

 

2003

City Line cutback from Gifu Ekimae to Shin Gifu Ekimae due to work in front of station.

 

2005

Mar 31 – Gifu city Line and Ibi line closed.

513, 514 retired

770s to Fukui Railway

780s to Toyohashi Railway

 

Sources:

 

Japanese language Wikipedia (read with Google translate):

Ibi LIne     https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/名鉄揖斐線

City Line  https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/名鉄岐阜市内線

Tanigumi line https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/名鉄谷汲線

700s & 750s  https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/名古屋鉄道デセホ700形電車

510s & 520s  https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/美濃電気軌道セミボ510形電車

 

 名鉄いろいろ  http://www42.tok2.com/home/c11190/meitetuiroirotop.htm

 

Electric Railways of Japan - Volume 2 (for 1985 roster)

 

 

 

Edited May 6, 2018 by bill937ca

[bill937ca]

I gem of a video from 1988. It shows various terminals of the Meitetsu Gifu 600v red trains.  There is the single track Gifu eki-mae in front of JR Gifu, the Meitetsu Shin Gifu terminal with its joint 600v/1500v operation. An extended sequence shows the Ibi railway line terminal at Chutetsu with its high platforms for railway stock, low platforms for the city line trams and Ibi line express runs (510-520s and 770s). Scenes at Kurono show 522 scarlet along with 511 and a red & white 515.  As 522 and 515 were both scrapped in early fall 1988 this video must be spring or summer 1988.  The outer terminals of the shuttles to Hon-Ibi and Tanigumi are both shown.  There are lots of blue and white uniforms indicative of the robust school traffic on these lines. Looking closely a two-car 510 train leaving Kurono has an operator and a guard.

 

Video by ji Mo.

 

 

[bill937ca]

Another video. This is Ibi line shuttle beyond Kurono to Hon-Ibi.  It was 3.7km with four stations and all single track apart from the terminals. Through service to Gifu ended in 1984 and the shuttle was abolished in 2001. It could be a prototype for a small diorama.

 

Video by hineri 2010

 

 

A cab ride from November 21, 1991.  Video by railmoto.

 

 

Edited May 11, 2018 by bill937ca

[serotta1972]

Thank you for all the information about about the 510's - got a couple of Tomix HO 510's a while back and they are beautiful models.  Always great to learn the history of the models I have and have a better appreciation for them.

 

[serotta1972]