Nick_Burman Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Hello all, Does anyone know when JNR (and by extension the private railways) started using semaphore signals with steel poles (the ones we see today in museums)? I'm re-reading Dan Free's book about early Japanese railways and noticed that much early Japanese signalling was built on wooden posts (and resembled a lot Great Western signalling). Until when this type of signals lasted? Given that I'm modelling a private railway, could I be excused in using one or two around (Ratio makes them in N scale)? Cheers NB 1 Link to comment
kvp Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 Non steel poles and old US type signalling is still present on some cab videos i've seen, even on pretty recent ones. Almost all of them are from private lines tough. Considering the english wikipedia page has a form signal photo from 2007 means the line in question was using the GWR style form signals up until it's closure in 2007. Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Non steel poles and old US type signalling is still present on some cab videos i've seen, even on pretty recent ones. Almost all of them are from private lines tough. Considering the english wikipedia page has a form signal photo from 2007 means the line in question was using the GWR style form signals up until it's closure in 2007. kvp, What company was that? Could you point me to the photo? Cheers NB Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 I think he's referring to this one, on the Kurihara Den'en Railway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Semaphore_railway_signal_at_the_Wakayanagi_station.jpg Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 I think he's referring to this one, on the Kurihara Den'en Railway: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Semaphore_railway_signal_at_the_Wakayanagi_station.jpg Thanks BB, but this is the "standard" round steel pole signal (as made in N scale by Tomix) I've referred to in my first post. Cheers NB Link to comment
kvp Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 (edited) Check this one: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Dual_arm_semaphore_signal.jpg Considering that the wooden poles went out of fashion with most form signals after ww2, it's hard to find any surviving examples at all, but they are not in use today. Afaik the official signalling system after ww2 (and around the creation of the JNR) was based on american practice. Edited March 26, 2014 by kvp Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Check this one: http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/ファイル:Dual_arm_semaphore_signal.jpg Considering that the wooden poles went out of fashion with most form signals after ww2, it's hard to find any surviving examples at all, but they are not in use today. Afaik the official signalling system after ww2 (and around the creation of the JNR) was based on american practice. kvp, thanks. That must have been salvaged from somewhere...now to discover where and when... Cheers NB Link to comment
miyakoji Posted March 26, 2014 Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nick, the station sign below it is for Nagoya, and apparently this is in Meiji-mura. http://www.meijimura.com/english/ Assuming the park is period-correct, that would be between 1868 and the 1912 Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted March 26, 2014 Author Share Posted March 26, 2014 Nick, the station sign below it is for Nagoya, and apparently this is in Meiji-mura. http://www.meijimura.com/english/ Assuming the park is period-correct, that would be between 1868 and the 1912 Thanks, but actually I would like to know where did Meiji Mura salvage the signal from. If it lasted as long as it did to make its way into the park's collection, it means that it was extant (in use?) at least into the 1950's, which was when Meiji Mura began being built. Looking at the park's page, I was surprised to find a house brought from Brazil...from a town roughly 100km S from where I live... Cheers NB Link to comment
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