EF30 + other stainless models?

[katoftw]

I recently discovered the EF30.  While not a huge JR fan until recently.  Older style trains I have little knowledge on.

 

What appeals to me is the stainless steel look of the EF30.  I for some crazy reason love the stainless look.  I already have the Kyushu red/stainless 813.  And plan on getting the Fukuhoku black/stainless 813 soonish.

 

But seeing picutres of the EF30 (which is a Kyushu train, so good for me since I'm getting up a small collection first), but...

 

What other stainless trains are available you there?  Doesn't have to be Kyushu.  Just curious so to people in the game longer than me might know about.

 

Thanks.

Edited January 25, 2014 by katoftw

[kvp]

For suburban service there were quite a few stainless steel cars made in those days when the ef30 was introduced. Considering that most emus nowdays are stainless steel with painted stripes and head ends only, it has become fairly common in japan. However most new locomotives are fully painted, mostly for decorative reasons.

[ToniBabelony]

The EF30 (22 were built) is actually an odd man out in the locomotive realm. There is only one other JNR corrugated stainless steel locomotive out there, which is the EF81-300 (only 4 were built). Both types were intended for use in the Kanmon Tunnel from Honshū to Kyūshū. It was believed that the stainless steel would protect the trains from corrosion, but it worked just as 'good' as a common paint job.

 

An interesting JNR unit is the KIHA35-900 DMU of which 10 were built. Completely corrugated stainless steel bodies, but only ran in the Kanto area and were painted in a full orange livery later on.

 

It was however not the first corrugated steel DMU. That would have been the now decommissioned Ibaraki Kōtsū KEHA600: http://js3vxw.cocolog-nifty.com/photos/ibaragi_k/ibaragi_k_keha601_.html A very pretty and interesting unit. The body is still laying around somewhere around the Hitachinaka Kaihin Railway: http://www.uraken.net/rail/chiho/ibaraki/600.html

[lurkingknight]

I thought the tokyo EMUs were stainless.. I was going to mention it but then I looked at photos and they sort of looked like a matte grey finish but i guess it really is stainless.

[ToniBabelony]

I thought the tokyo EMUs were stainless.. I was going to mention it but then I looked at photos and they sort of looked like a matte grey finish but i guess it really is stainless.

 

That completely depends on the type. There are stainless, aluminium and fully painted steel bodies. The latter ones are disappearing quickly because they are heavy and require expensive maintenance.

 

Below are (incomplete) lists of body types from Wikipedia in Japanese to assist for searching:

- Stainless steel body type trains

- Semi-stainless steel body trains

- Aluminium body type trains 

[westfalen]

Saw this at Shimonogo on the Ueda Railway in December 2012.

 

[ToniBabelony]

Saw this at Shimonogo on the Ueda Railway in December 2012.

 

 

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Ah, that's the famous stainless steel Green Frog, Tōkyū 5200 type. The first all stainless steel Japanese EMU. The grandfather of all modern EMU so to say.

[katoftw]

Thanks for the info.  Found another in my searches, EF81-300.  It the Cassiopeia locos and carriages SS/alloy?

[keitaro]

KATO

 

there is also the nankai and some old subways ( i like the nankai but thats probably because live around the nankai lines :D)

went on the 6100 a few time many years back before it was retired. though i think the 6100 is basically the 6300 with different bogies and a few mods?

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Nankai_6100_series_011.JPG

http://www.loco1hobby.net/en/microace/83-6100-nankai-old-system-painting-2-car-set.html

 

theres also this i like it`S look though i don`t think a model out for it

http://www.n-sharyo.co.jp/business/tetsudo_e/pages/fuku2000.htm

[Blevins18]

http://www1.vecceed.ne.jp/~f86fblue/EF30s.JPG

 

I did a google search on EF30 and this little gem showed up. Looks kind of like a B Train only... not. Pretty neat though. The website I found it on has some other small models on it too.

[katoftw]

http://www.loco1hobby.net/en/microace/83-6100-nankai-old-system-painting-2-car-set.html

oh you tease!

 

add that to the list of things i wanna buy from you.  i noticed you have the EF30 also.  the list is getting longer. haha i have you lined up for next fortnights order.

Edited January 26, 2014 by katoftw

[westfalen]

Ah, that's the famous stainless steel Green Frog, Tōkyū 5200 type. The first all stainless steel Japanese EMU. The grandfather of all modern EMU so to say.

That was a bit of a find then. I gather from the Japanese wikipedia that there were only five vehicles?

[keitaro]

Saw this at Shimonogo on the Ueda Railway in December 2012.

 

 

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West nice find didn`t think they were still about

 

 http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8A%E7%94%B0%E4%BA%A4%E9%80%9A5200%E7%B3%BB%E9%9B%BB%E8%BB%8A

 

ueda electric railway has had some really fine gems

 

go here for details http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E4%B8%8A%E7%94%B0%E9%9B%BB%E9%89%84%E5%88%A5%E6%89%80%E7%B7%9A

 

totally surprised they are still about 27 years left to rot (though they do look OK condition considering the length of time.).... Would be great to see a come back hehe, but i doubt they are making that kinda money to revive.

Edited January 27, 2014 by keitaro

[ToniBabelony]

That was a bit of a find then. I gather from the Japanese wikipedia that there were only five vehicles?

 

Yep, only 5 built and regularly ran in 5000 series consists and the other way around in their later years. They had a different body form and front than the regular 5000 (Green Frog), which made these consists look even more 'off' than you'd imagine: