bikkuri bahn Posted September 2, 2013 Share Posted September 2, 2013 I was away on holiday when media reports were made, but it seems fault is being placed with the personnel policy/ training of maintenance staff at JR Hokkaido with regards the spate of breakdowns/fires, mainly on diesel stock. I think it was either westfalen or Mark Newton who remarked that he thought that management policy w/ regards maintenance was the culprit, and that observation indeed appears precognizant. The article I read states that JR Hokkaido is first of all faced with unique problems w/ regards its diesel stock- older models (1/2 the roster is over 20 yrs. old) that are required to run at high speeds over long distances (service speeds and distances on ltd. express services which elsewhere in Japan are entrusted to electric stock). Also, winter conditions with expansion and contraction of metal surfaces and parts that imposes stress on them. But the biggest issue may be personnel. JR Hokkaido has relatively few experienced maintenance personnel in their 40's to 50's (about 1/5 of the total maintenance staff). Therefore there is a deficit of knowhow. Many maintenance tasks now need to be outsourced...Blame for this is placed on a reduction of hiring of personnel since the breakup of JNR and privatization. Currently JR Hokkaido is relying on the advice of "big brother" JR East to reform its maintenance regime. Nihon Keizai Shimbun article (Japanese): http://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXNASDG0204F_S3A800C1CR8000/ 2 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 (edited) More fallout: With the autumn timetable revision (starting in November), JR Hokkaido is permanently until further notice reducing the number of limited express services as well as lowering the service speeds. This is the first time this has been done since the formation of JR Hokkaido with the breakup of the Japanese National Railways (JNR). It also only the second time such a measure has been undertaken post-war. Super Oozora (Sapporo-Kushiro): elimination of 1 r/t, top speed reduced 20km/h to 110km/k, travel time increased 20 min. Super Hokuto/Hokuto (Sapporo-Hakodate): elimination of 2 r/t, top speed reduced 10km/h to 120km/h, travel time increased 9 min. Super Kamui (Sapporo-Asahikawa): elimination of 1 r/t, top speed reduced 10km/h to 120km/h The airport rapid service for Shin-Chitose AP will also have its top speed reduced to 120km/h. The primary aim of these slowdowns is to reduce wear on diesel engines on the DMU units. Elimination of services is to allow more generous maintenance windows. http://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20130904/k10014284191000.html Edited September 4, 2013 by bikkuri bahn 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 more trubles for JR Hokkaido. now track inspection data not matching reports... http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/11/12/national/discrepancies-in-jr-hokkaidos-rail-inspections/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=discrepancies-in-jr-hokkaidos-rail-inspections#.UoKEgShAd9k jeff Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 I've pretty much given up on reporting the foibles of JR Hokkaido- a new revelation seems to pop up daily, though perhaps some of that is a result of media hype. I think I've said this before, but it's too bad that JR Hokkaido can't just go bankrupt, and undergo re-organization by an outside (i.e. Honshu-based) group. Link to comment
miyakoji Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I've pretty much given up on reporting the foibles of JR Hokkaido- a new revelation seems to pop up daily, though perhaps some of that is a result of media hype. I think I've said this before, but it's too bad that JR Hokkaido can't just go bankrupt, and undergo re-organization by an outside (i.e. Honshu-based) group. What would this involve? Have they got loss-making lines to cut that won't detract from the usefulness of the overall network? Link to comment
nartak Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 JR Hokkaido is actually a unsustainable condition from the beginning. Every year they receive bunch of indirect fund from government to keep them alive. So we can consider JR Hokkaido is just as same as JNR Hokkaido. They are trying to make some revenue outside of rail operation like real estate or something, but still not enough to make their business healthy. Small population, too many distance of rural railroads to maintain, severe weather condition, and all other circumstances are seems the worst in JR group.Also labor union may be the other issue in them. Some unions are actually well known for having relation with radical extremist group and it may causing lowering morale in workplace... Link to comment
cteno4 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 And worse http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/ministry-launches-probe-after-jr-hokkaido-admits-falsifying-track-inspection-data Jeff Link to comment
Mudkip Orange Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 So what does a JR Hokkaido look like if you give it the Beeching treatment? I have to figure you retain a Sapporo-centric regional network (Asahikawa, Obihiro, Otaru, the 1067mm line to Hakodate), the Shinkansen... and what else? Does the bypass route to Iwamizawa stay open freight-only? Do you retain service to Nemuro? 1 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Extreme version: keep all the main lines and the Sapporo urban network intact, and axe the secondary routes- Kushiro-Nemuro, Kushiro-Abashiri, Fukagawa-Mashike, Hidaka Line, and the Tomakomai-Iwamizawa route (freight outside of the Sapporo-Honshu corridor route is minor and frankly replaceable with trucks in line with JR-F's "shrink the business" policy). Basically close any line that doesn't host ltd. express services- which are the ones outside of urban services (like the profitable airport rapids) which are capable of breaking even, if not earning a profit. They can use that railbus contraption for communities that are willing to put up money for keeping their stretch of track open to the nearest main line. Edited November 14, 2013 by bikkuri bahn Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 Oh yeah, close the Hakodate Main Line "yamasen" (Otaru-Oshamambe), though I bet Niseko, Kutchan, and Yoichi will put up a big fight- at least until the shinkansen comes. Link to comment
Densha Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 First let's hope nothing will be closed, although it's inevitable that some will eventually. It just doesn't make much sense stopping at station in the middle of nowhere with only trees and plants around in kilometers as you can see sometimes. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Now saber rattling http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/11/13/national/jr-hokkaido-may-face-criminal-charge-for-falsifications/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-may-face-criminal-charge-for-falsifications#.UoT3BYy9KSM Jeff Edited November 14, 2013 by cteno4 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted November 15, 2013 Author Share Posted November 15, 2013 Once again, in an ideal world, going bankrupt the management can be replaced, and a court-appointed team put in place to fix things. As it stands, the current management is still there, and competent firms like JR East have no interest in getting involved (naturally), other than providing advice, which doesn't cost much. Link to comment
Mudkip Orange Posted November 15, 2013 Share Posted November 15, 2013 Oh yeah, close the Hakodate Main Line "yamasen" (Otaru-Oshamambe), though I bet Niseko, Kutchan, and Yoichi will put up a big fight- at least until the shinkansen comes. Seems like it would be pretty obvious to operate this as a third sector line, with the tacit understanding that it will close up shop once the Shinkansen comes... Link to comment
cteno4 Posted November 22, 2013 Share Posted November 22, 2013 and more... http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/11/22/national/jr-hokkaido-admits-more-falsified-checks/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-admits-more-falsified-checks#.Uo-6QShAd9k from christopher hood on jtrains. jeff Link to comment
cteno4 Posted January 22, 2014 Share Posted January 22, 2014 JR Hokkaido punishes 75 employees over track data falsificationhttp://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/01/21/national/jr-hokkaido-punishes-75-employees-over-track-data-falsification/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-punishes-75-employees-over-track-data-falsification#.Ut_58Sj0D5c Link to comment
cteno4 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 (edited) JR Hokkaido gets rare reform order JAN 25, 2014 In an unprecedented move, the transport ministry has issued a supervision order to Hokkaido Railway Co. under the law governing Japan Railways Group companies, in the wake of a track inspection falsification scandal. http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/01/25/business/jr-hokkaido-gets-rare-reform-order/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-gets-rare-reform-order#.UuPpi4w8KSM Edited January 25, 2014 by cteno4 Link to comment
katoftw Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Interesting they made it public. this isn't a regular occurance, but it does happen accross the globe. but Governments aren't normal so public about dissing public transport companies, as the want the masses to have faith in the public transport system. I am aware of other cases were periodic checks of bridges have been checked off, but no engineer actually visited the bridges cloer to home. All in the line I guess of saving dollars. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 JR Hokkaido punishes 75 employees over track data falsificationhttp://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/01/21/national/jr-hokkaido-punishes-75-employees-over-track-data-falsification/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-punishes-75-employees-over-track-data-falsification#.Ut_58Sj0D5c Really salutes Japan on this. Upmost respect. Here, the transport system is 'privatized' only recently, only that it is still under an arm of the government. Trains break down, government bodies fine them very hard, yes. But that's just left pocket to right pocket. The problem is never solved and the trains break down again. They pruchase maintenance trains but those were only for show and parked at the yard. And then they have the cheek to want to raise the fare prices. AGAIN. Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 To enhance on my above post: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/train-disruptions-due-to-lapses-by-staff--smrt-004814892.html Here's what Silly excuses Sillypore operator gives... Link to comment
katoftw Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 To enhance on my above post: http://sg.news.yahoo.com/train-disruptions-due-to-lapses-by-staff--smrt-004814892.html Here's what Silly excuses Sillypore operator gives... Sounds like every other commuter operater accross the globe. Japan will always be excluded to what the rest of the world does. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 JR Hokkaido plans record safety investment in FY 2014 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2014/02/03/business/jr-hokkaido-plans-record-safety-investment-in-fy-2014/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=jr-hokkaido-plans-record-safety-investment-in-fy-2014#.UvASzyhAd9k Link to comment
katoftw Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 PR stunt for Hokkaido, but at least it is a good PR stunt. Nothing wrong with spending big money on maintenence. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 Criminal complaint to be filed against JR Hokkaido http://www.japantoday.com/category/crime/view/criminal-complaint-to-be-filed-against-jr-hokkaido Link to comment
katoftw Posted February 10, 2014 Share Posted February 10, 2014 (edited) Ouch for them. The responses down the bottom have gotta make you laugh. Edited February 10, 2014 by katoftw Link to comment
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