Socimi Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Not sure if this certifies as a train, but it is certainly a rail vehicle. It's an Ikarus 60 bus body mounted on railway trucks, with a MiG-15 jet fighter engine fitted to serve as snowblower. Obviously a Soviet invention. https://twitter.com/sovietsoreyuke/status/856810164967440384 Another example of soviet engineering: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C67VOWjVAAAbbYT.jpg:large Link to comment
Suica Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Another example of soviet engineering: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C67VOWjVAAAbbYT.jpg:large Wait... is that a pull propeller design? Link to comment
Socimi Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 (edited) Back to Japan: Toyko Monorail 100 series: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BeV2mJlCYAAU02y.jpg http://blog-imgs-50.fc2.com/n/i/g/nighttrain999/20130507060731129.jpg And Shonan Monorail 300 series: http://marshland.uunyan.com/tetsu/tokaido/10shounan/shou2002.jpg Also, KiHa 22 from Abukuma Express railway are terrible. http://marshland.uunyan.com/tetsu/hakubutsu/img/13abukuma01.jpg All the mages from this website: http://marshland.uunyan.com/index.html Edited April 27, 2017 by Socimi Link to comment
Densha Posted April 26, 2017 Share Posted April 26, 2017 Also this (unknown 3rd sectror railway) colour scheme is terrible. http://marshland.uunyan.com/tetsu/hakubutsu/img/13abukuma01.jpg The URL says 'Abukuma', which is obviously a reference to Abukuma Express. This looks like it is a KiHa 22 DMU unit from that company. The third URL also doesn't work. Maybe next time you can link to the blog post or website page where you found the images instead? That way it's much easier to find information and it's fair for the website owner as well. 2 Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 I think we haven't had the ICE's grandfather, DB BR 403 "Donald Duck", yet. I know there are many people who absolutely hate its looks. I for one love it. After being left to rot for 20 years one unit is currently being restored to serviceable condition. I'm totally on the "love" side of that debate! 1 Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Not sure if this certifies as a train, but it is certainly a rail vehicle. It's an Ikarus 60 bus body mounted on railway trucks, with a MiG-15 jet fighter engine fitted to serve as snowblower. Obviously a Soviet invention. https://twitter.com/sovietsoreyuke/status/856810164967440384 The Czechs did something similar, mounted a MiG-15 minus the wings onto a flatcar. Link to comment
miyakoji Posted April 27, 2017 Share Posted April 27, 2017 Not sure if this certifies as a train, but it is certainly a rail vehicle. It's an Ikarus 60 bus body mounted on railway trucks, with a MiG-15 jet fighter engine fitted to serve as snowblower. Obviously a Soviet invention. https://twitter.com/sovietsoreyuke/status/856810164967440384 With every post to this thread since the Talgo I, I've thought, "what's the point, the answer to this question has been provided, and this thread is !@#$%^& complete, done, and finished." Lo and behold, a worthy successor. 3 Link to comment
Densha Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 It's difficult to choose which one of these North Korean trains is the ugliest... https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/664823011774586881 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/708313622498271233 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/672440774600974336 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/717169083955851264 I believe at least the latter are ex-Soviet. 1 Link to comment
railsquid Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 (edited) https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/708313622498271233 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/672440774600974336 These two are ex-(East) Berlin U-Bahn G types originally sold to run on the Pyongyang Metro. Statistically there's a good chance I've travelled on some of the cars pictured. Just waiting for the next Shapeways free postage offer so I can acquire some bodyshells to attempt to bash a 4-car rake together (in original BVB livery, though I wonder if there are any enterprising modellers doing the North Korean scene?) Edited April 29, 2017 by railsquid Link to comment
Kiha66 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 No idea what this is, (French perhaps?) but it may also be a contender! https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C-F5JVaUMAAZbH6.jpg:large Link to comment
marknewton Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Yes, it's a French loco that was modified for a speed record run. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/SNCF_Class_CC_7100 Cheers, Mark. 1 Link to comment
serotta1972 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 I kind of like those, I remember seeing one in a Lima catalogue I had in the 1980s. The N gauge Lima version pops up on Yahoo Japan every now and again and goes for silly prices, so it seems popular here. I was bidding on one of these but my max bid was beaten by $2. Link to comment
Socimi Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 It's difficult to choose which one of these North Korean trains is the ugliest... https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/664823011774586881 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/708313622498271233 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/672440774600974336 https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/717169083955851264 I believe at least the latter are ex-Soviet. The last is a former Chinese DF3 loco built in the early 1950s. Three were sold to Vietnam after their retirement in the 1990s, but it's possible that some were also sold to NK (along with DF4s, DF5s and BJs ). The first is probably assembled from scraps. Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 The North Korean stuff, yeah, everyone's covered them. That's actually the first picture of a DF3 in the DPRK that I've seen, though I've heard the rumours for a while now. I've seen the first one before, too, and I agree at the guess that it's built from scraps, as it doesn't look like any of the types mass-produced by the Kim Chong-tae Electric Locomotive Works. though I wonder if there are any enterprising modellers doing the North Korean scene? I kinda dabble at it, though in TT, not N. In HO there's a fair selection of equipment you can use. Aside from Chinese passenger and freight cars, there are Chinese locomotives you can use (DF4 diesel, JF steamers, and I *think* there are models of the BJ and DF5 diesels available). There are plenty of M62 models in HO that just need repainting, and one could always kitbash one of those into one of the DPRK-made copies. The Czech T448 diesel is also an option. I don't know if there's a model of the Russian TEM1 available in HO, but I think you could kitbash one from an American RSD1? Other American locomotives you could use are Russian Decapods and USATC S160s. Electrics would be more problematic, as the most ubiquitous type is a local design internally derived from the Czech E499.1, but there *are* a small number of Czech-made E499.0 still running around that could be modelled with a little bit of modification. So it's not at all an impossible task, and there are loads of photos available online to help with putting together a relatively prototypical-looking scene. Link to comment
Densha Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Looks like they also have a China Railways DF11 look-alike running around: https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/779877383155306496 And this narrow gauge railway is rather cute, for North Korean norms that is: https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/667004216955699200 Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted April 29, 2017 Share Posted April 29, 2017 Looks like they also have a China Railways DF11 look-alike running around: https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/779877383155306496 And this narrow gauge railway is rather cute, for North Korean norms that is: https://twitter.com/KPA_1953/status/667004216955699200 That DF11 - I think it's a DF4D? They have a couple of those, and they did receive several CKD4s new - along with some other newer types for Dear Leader's trains (these have a separate depot at Ryongsong). The NG train there is the Hamhung commuter train, and yeah I think it is pretty cute, too, by any standards! :) Link to comment
Socimi Posted April 30, 2017 Share Posted April 30, 2017 Electrics would be more problematic, as the most ubiquitous type is a local design internally derived from the Czech E499.1, but there *are* a small number of Czech-made E499.0 still running around that could be modelled with a little bit of modification. In some cases a very little bit of modifications: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CasvpZuVAAAnyRg.jpg 1 Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 Contender from the UK - an experimental pre-WW2 railcar: http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwrlave3766.htm 1 Link to comment
Socimi Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 The Brithish Bugatti! The other side (same website): http://www.warwickshirerailways.com/lms/lnwr/leamingtonavenue/lnwrlave1362.jpg 1 Link to comment
marknewton Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 It's not a Bugatti. It was a joint project of the LMS, Michelin and Armstrong Siddely. Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
velotrain Posted May 17, 2017 Share Posted May 17, 2017 And here I thought I was literal . . . as railsquid knows all too well. Link to comment
Suica Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 It's not a Bugatti. It was a joint project of the LMS, Michelin and Armstrong Siddely. Cheers, Mark. I'm sure Socimi just wanted to point out that it's related to the SNCF Bugatti Railcar. With 8 rubber wheels. 2 Link to comment
marknewton Posted May 18, 2017 Share Posted May 18, 2017 Four engines? I bet the fitters loved them. :) Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
VentureForth Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 (edited) I must agree that the original Talgo 1 Cascades are pretty ugly. I'm not much in favor of most of Amtrak stock. I think individually, they all look great. But when they are raked together, the final consists look horrible, with no continuity. For example, a typical long distance East Coast train like the Silver Meteor has a P42 Diesel engine South of Washington, DC where they convert from any of three or four electric motors. Then comes a Viewliner-based baggage car, or if horribly old, a heritage baggage. Then, depending on the time of the year, you have sleepers then the AmCans - the corrugated stainless airplane style round bodies. They just don't mesh with the Viewliners well. As far as Japanese trains go, my pick for ugliest is the old JNR 481-0 & 481-100 cab cars. Ironic, as I just about love the rest of the 485 series. Something about that 481... Looks like a tiger or something. It's cool, but strange. Therefore, ugly. Edited May 25, 2017 by VentureForth Link to comment
Suica Posted June 1, 2017 Share Posted June 1, 2017 I've just been in Poland for a few days and I found the PKP Series EN57AKM to be very offensive to the eye. I love the original EN57 and EN71 EMUs and it makes me wonder if whoever came up with the modernised design seriously thought "Yup, great! That's how they should look!" Original EN57 for comparison: All photos by me Link to comment
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