bill937ca Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 (edited) Watch this running woman go undetected as she pushes through a closed gate at Yoyogi on the Saikyo line. Not the preferred way to cross the tracks. From what Electric Railways of Japan co-author and transportation consutlant Leroy Demery has said the detectors are designed to pick up stationary objects after triggering a timer. If they were detecting anything larger than a small animal, the lines would be shutdown all the time. And that fact would be reported in the press like any other delay of one minute or more. Here`s some comments on crossings from Leroy Demery from another list. Thu Apr 3, 2008 2:12 pm As long ago as 1980, busy Japanese rail lines had arrays of sensors at (unattended) gradecrossings. Each crossing also had signals for train drivers, displaying a large white "X" toindicate that the crossing was "secure." If anything (or anyone) entered the crossing whilebarriers were lowered, sensors would activate warnings - a buzzer at the crossing, thewhite "X" changing to a red "O" (traced out by lights "moving" in sequence), and automaticemergency brake application on any approaching train.Please note that I have absolutely no idea of "how" any of this worked: e.g.--Train detection / track circuits.--Object / person detection at grade crossings.--Automatic emergency braking in case of object / person detection.Please note in addition that I observed this system in operation many times - but did notsee a "malfunction" or, in particular, a "false positive" indication (of obstruction orintruder) at a grade crossing.Leroy W. Demery, Jr. Wed Dec 5, 2007 3:21 am[in response to a Keio line train ride video I posted.]--- In yahoogroups.com, wrote: "Note the lack of horn blowing at the grade crossings. Note also the 4 quadrant gates. Mightthis change the NIMBY equation?"Clark, Lyndon et al.,"No horn blowing," but the crossing barriers do have (electronic) gongs.Also, if anything or one enters the crossing after the barriers are down, you'd think it wasChristmas and New Year's Eve all in one, with all the lights and horns that go off ...Also, Japan does have NIMBYs (some of whom are remarkably tenacious), and theydo filelawsuits.Leroy W. Demery, Jr Tue May 20, 2003 2:16 pm From another list, posted by Hiroshi Naito:"The infrared-sensor grade crossing protection systems are verycommon and proven in Japan. The system is particularilyeffective if it is connected to the signal in conjunction with anautomatic protection system. If it detects an objection blockingthe track on the level crossing, it automatically drops the signalin front to 'Stop' so that an approaching train can come to a stopbefore reaching the crossing. Thanks to the spread of this type ofthe protection system, accidents on level crossings havedrastically decreased in Japan. Almost all level crossings arefitted with a protection system nowadays on busy main lines (Ithink 100 % as far as busy urban lines are concerned)."It uses a timer to distinguish between a real objection and amoving object by counting time while the sensor is blocked. Ofcourse, it detects a passing train itself too, so a special trackcircuit is installed in the crossing area to disable the functionwhile the train is passing. It is capable of detecting an objectregardless of its size, varying from a pedestrian to a large bus. Ifyou stop on the level crossing blocking the sensor for a certaintime period, an emergency stop would be activated. Actually, Iheard that nuisance stops sometimes occur on level crossingsprotected by this system (but this adverse effect seems to be notvery significant)."(Leroy W. Demery, Jr.) Tue May 20, 2003 3:42 pm --- In ..> wrote: "This sounds like trouble for the typicalAmerican mindset. They would soon get the idea that the trainshould stop for them, and would become even more brazen incutting around gates."Dave et al.,This is not a problem in Japan is because 1.) there are lawsagainst "interference with the safe operation" of a railway ortransport system, and 2.) flagrant scofflaws do become thetarget of, shall we say, a rather uncompromising lawenforcement and justice system.There's also a 3.), but it's not quite so concise. Let's say thatyour kid develops a reputation for playing "chicken" whencrossing barriers are located. Someone, quite likely another kid,will report yours to the local policeman at the local "koban" orpolice box for "unsafe behavior." Police cultivate goodrelationships with residents, who are then more likely to assistduring criminal investigations ( . . . the police also have a certainreputation, from 60-80 years ago, to live down . . .).("Policeman" = policewomen are not permitted to work as kobanofficers . . . but "outrank" koban officers because they areassigned to police stations, and are therefore law-enforcement"specialists" . . .)This is a society where neighborhood officers are often asked toarbitrate disputes that would end up in court in this country (!!!).The koban officer will probably talk to your kid, and to you, aboutunsafe behavior, how it might cause injuries to self or others,embarrassment to parents and so forth.Leroy W. Demery, Jr. Edited May 27, 2013 by bill937ca 2 Link to comment
Davo Dentetsu Posted May 27, 2013 Share Posted May 27, 2013 Great post. I'm of the theory that if they fancy being a Darwin Award recipient, then... yeah. Link to comment
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