Japanese Stations and Marshaling Yards

[Blevins18]

Still being relatively new to Japanese rail fanning/ model railroading, I was wondering if anyone has information or can point me to information/ pictures of marshaling yards used at stations for holding of through passenger/ sleeper trains. I'm making an assumption that this is still a practice but like I said, I'm a newbie!

[bill937ca]

Here`s a   previous thread with a small station that will help you.

 

http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/3246-small-station-plan/?hl=%2Bstation+%2Bplan

 

There`s more somewhere in the board.

Edited May 3, 2013 by bill937ca

[bill937ca]

This JR Naoetu as covered by the Hobidas blog in 2006. There are passenger platforms, a former roundhouse, what I believe is a small container freight terminal (shade blue). This station is used by the JR East Shinetsu Main Line and by the JR West Hokuriku Main Line.

 

http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/naoetu001.jpg

 

Japanese language articles with many photos.

 

http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/2006/05/post_47.html

 

http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/2006/05/2_1.html

 

English Wikipedia.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naoetsu_Station

Edited May 3, 2013 by bill937ca

[bill937ca]

Here`s a station with what appears to be a small freight yard. This JR West Uozu on the Hokuriku Main Line.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uozu_Station

 

http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/uodu-001.html

 

Japanese language article with photos.

 

http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/2006/10/week.html

[westfalen]

I stayed in a hotel overlooking Uozu station in 1994. The yard opposite the platforms at the time held ballast hoppers and maintainence of way equipment. The sidings below the station to the right are a container terminal, while I was there a through freight train uncoupled a string of container cars from its rear in the middle track between the platforms and a four wheel diesel loco came out and shunted them in to the yard after the through train continued on its way.

Edited May 4, 2013 by westfalen

[bikkuri bahn]

...information/ pictures of marshaling yards used at stations for holding of through passenger/ sleeper trains

Typically, any through passenger trains with a significant layover stop en route merely occupy a track in the station.  This is not a problem in terms of track capacity. as most trains that do this are night trains.  Nagaoka in Niigata Prefecture is one well-known station for having through night trains layover- either reversing to go on to Hokuriku region destinations (and vice-versa), or to provide a decent arrival time in Tokyo Ueno Station.  Recent elimination of some night trains has reduced wee hours activity at this station, however.

[Sacto1985]

So which overnight trains stop at Nagaoka Station? I know the Akebono stops there, but I'm not sure if the Twilight Express does.

Edited May 4, 2013 by Sacto1985

[bronzeonion]

Soga station which is nearly an hour from Tokyo on the Keiyo line has regular passenger services using: E233-5000 Series trains on the Keiyo line which terminate and go back to Tokyo from the middle platform, E217 Series trains on 'Rapid' Uchibo/Sotobo line trains, 209-2000/2100 series trains on 'Local' Uchibo/Sotobo line trains and Limited Express 'Sazanami' 'Wakashio' trains which are either E257 Series or 255 Series. The freight yard is located next to the station and you can clearly see the shunting of wagons and the arrival and departure of freight trains from the Chiba bound platform. The locomotives used are mainly the older type, I think they are EF64 but I am not entirely sure because many locomotives from that era all look very similiar but I definitely saw an EF64. The traffic is nearly all container traffic.

 

Sorry reading the original post I realise that post was pretty irrelevant but I hope its of some use to someone!

Edited May 4, 2013 by bronzeonion

[bill937ca]

This Kyoto 1992. Anyone know if the adjacent yards were used for sleeper stock?

 

http://senrohaisenzu.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2009/04/19921-78b4.html

[bikkuri bahn]

This Kyoto 1992. Anyone know if the adjacent yards were used for sleeper stock?

 

http://senrohaisenzu.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2009/04/19921-78b4.html

If Kyoto based, they were stabled at the Kyoto General Depot in Mukou City, about 6km down the line in the Osaka direction.  More likely they were based out of Miyahara Depot adjacent to Shin Osaka Station, which has traditionally serviced loco-hauled stock.

[bikkuri bahn]

So which overnight trains stop at Nagaoka Station? I know the Akebono stops there, but I'm not sure if the Twilight Express does.

In the past, overnight trains (now gone) bound for Hokuriku from Ueno would reverse at Nagaoka.  This took some time.

[Sacto1985]

In the past, overnight trains (now gone) bound for Hokuriku from Ueno would reverse at Nagaoka.  This took some time.

 

So did any overnight trains back in the JNR days use the Shin'etsu Main Line (including "banking" locomotive assistance over Usui Pass)? Or was it just easier to run the overnight train on the Jōetsu Line from Takasaki north and then reverse at Nagaoka, since you didn't need banking locomotive assistance over steep grades?

[bikkuri bahn]

So did any overnight trains back in the JNR days use the Shin'etsu Main Line (including "banking" locomotive assistance over Usui Pass)? Or was it just easier to run the overnight train on the Jōetsu Line from Takasaki north and then reverse at Nagaoka, since you didn't need banking locomotive assistance over steep grades?

Checking a JTB National Timetable from March 1972, there were 2 down direction regularly scheduled loco-hauled overnight trains between Ueno and the Hokuriku/Echigo region via the Shinetsu Main Line- the express Echizen (for Fukui) and the express Myoko No.6 (for Naoetsu).  On the other hand, regularly scheduled night trains departing Ueno using the Joetsu Line numbered four in the down direction, one which was bound for a Hokuriku destination (the express Hokuriku No. 2, for Kanazawa).  This train spent 9 minutes stopped at Nagaoka.

 

A late version of the express Myoko with 14 series coaching stock, at Mure Station on the Shinetsu Line (ecs move):

Edited May 14, 2013 by bikkuri bahn