Diesel train tanking point

[Densha]

Hi,

 

The tanks of diesel trains need to be refilled once in a while of course. I was remembered of this when Claude made a new post in the thread about his layout recently. He thought of using the tanker truck for 'refuelling' his trains, but I know permanent tanking points also exist.

So, my question is how they are called in prototype and are there any pictures about them in Japan?

[bikkuri bahn]

Fueling points tend to have gasoline stand type pumps.  Here is one on the Kanto Railway:

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/2e/07/5ad3bc42295c281d0ed4c64357851dac.jpg

 

JR Tokai Nagoya Depot:

http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/grxph333/GALLERY/show_image.html?id=8010563&no=4

Edited January 6, 2013 by bikkuri bahn

[miyakoji]

Good find Bikkuri.

 

Below is a recent image from Ompuchaneru of JR West's Okayama DMU depot.  Two things could be fuel related; the red posts next to the line of 4 cars on the right, and the piping and equipment just to the left of the inspection train.

 

http://rail-uploader.khz-net.com/img-box/img2012122821025199be2.jpg

 

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B2%A1%E5%B1%B1%E6%B0%97%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E5%8C%BA

[KenS]

Perhaps you already saw this, but look back at this post in Claude's thread:

 

http://www.jnsforum.com/community/topic/2260-kanjiyama-an-n-gauge-japanese-terminus-layout/page-5?do=findComment&comment=66219

 

I don't know what the name is in Japanese.  That's a good question.  If we knew the Kanji, we could google for more info.

[Densha]

After hassling with google translate I think I have found the correct kanji: ディーゼル列車 給油 (diesel train refuelling)
Google images came up with some more pictures:
http://itasan-blog.up.d.seesaa.net/itasan-blog/image/DSC08460.JPG
http://www51.tok2.com/home/mawasya/kyuyusetubi_2.jpg
http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/e209911/21240491.html
Prototypical refuelling with a tanker truck:
http://harada.tea-nifty.com/blog/2006/10/post_9090.html

This guy made one in N gauge:
http://ameblo.jp/makoyuu999/entry-11299417868.html
 

Below is a recent image from Ompuchaneru of JR West's Okayama DMU depot. Two things could be fuel related; the red posts next to the line of 4 cars on the right, and the piping and equipment just to the left of the inspection train.

http://rail-uploader.khz-net.com/img-box/img2012122821025199be2.jpg

http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%B2%A1%E5%B1%B1%E6%B0%97%E5%8B%95%E8%BB%8A%E5%8C%BA

I think it's the red posts and hoses, that you can see around the whole depot.

[Claude_Dreyfus]

There is some interesting stuff here...

 

What it seems to be telling me is that most fuel points are small conventional pumps, as opposed to being straight from a tanker. Even the image of the refuelling from the truck had a pump mechanism in between. I will need to have a look at this more carefully and see if I can hash something together for Kanjiyama.

 

It looks like the road tanker acts not only as a way to transport the fuel, but also a holding tank...doing away with the need for static storage tanks; always a good thing when you don't have a lot of space.

 

I know I'm a little sad...but this is fascinating stuff!

[Sacto1985]

What I find interesting is how much the refueling pumps for the DMU's in Japan look more like the fuel pumps you see at automobile gas stations. They're certainly not the specialized, big refueling facilities you see at American railroad yards.

[Claude_Dreyfus]

Using the Kanto railway fuelling point (link from earlier in the thread below) as inspiration, I have put together a small pump for Kanjiyama...

 

http://blogimg.goo.n...64357851dac.jpg

 

Rubbish picture, but more details on Kanjiyama...

 

[Densha]

Nice to see how a simple topic start of mine resulted into these projects.

When I get to building my own layout I probably will be doing a refuelling point too, makes for a good excuse to create a little yard.

[KenS]

The combination of the fueling point with an inspection pit (shown in the blog linked by Densha) is a nice "busy" detail for a layout.  The pump located in between the platforms of a station was also interesting.  I don't think you'd see a fueling facility that close to the public in the west; too much concern about cigarette smokers, even if diesel isn't nearly as flammable as gasoline.