worldrailboy Posted January 5, 2012 Share Posted January 5, 2012 not sure if subject line was the best one I could think of but anyway read on... I remembered seeing an english captioned photo a long time ago re one JR steam locomotive with two deflectors-mounted headlights looking like eyes and that it was something to do with snowy condition visibility. but then of course I forgot where I had seen the photo and so soon started to forget about it for good..that is till while looking at the links given for actual C11 photos I came across this http://tsuzuki.photoland-aris.com/japan/9600/9600-6.jpg is there any actual explanations for the two lights instead of the usual single smokestack one? Link to comment
westfalen Posted January 6, 2012 Share Posted January 6, 2012 Two headlights seems to be a standard feature of steam locos assigned to the snowy regions of Hokkaido and Tohoku, usually a second headlight mounted beside the normal one but occasionally like your photo. Why one method and not the other I'll leave to someone else. JR Hokkaido excursion engine C11 207 has two lights, I can't find the disc with my photos at the moment but here's some video. Link to comment
worldrailboy Posted January 6, 2012 Author Share Posted January 6, 2012 with knowing the region I had to look it up both non-trains and trains and mm I found the other style you were mentioning about http://www.japaneserailwaysociety.com/jrs/members/snzk/c622.jpg I guess it would had been an interesting challenge for someone to modify a standard 9600 from the single smokestack headlight to suspended-by-its-own-wire-legs grain lights mounted near both deflector wings if they were nitpicky about modelling that particular route Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted January 8, 2012 Share Posted January 8, 2012 Steam locomotives in Hokkaido and Tohoku were typically fitted with the standard headlight and a sealed beam headlight, both mounted high as low mounted lights are useless in winter blizzard conditions. The 9600 with the twin mount headlight is on the Iwanai Line, a branch line that connects with the Hakodate Main Line at Kozawa, between Otaru and Kutchan. I suppose the extra lumens were needed as this line serves an area on the Sea of Japan coast, which gets blasts of Siberian cold fronts. Link to comment
worldrailboy Posted January 8, 2012 Author Share Posted January 8, 2012 mm I have noticed that many of the Hokkaido train photos are among windy winter landscapes if I can point out a non-japan practice again this is what Canadian National did for their difficult line through the mountains in British Columbia to get to the coastline side http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IPZX1n_gnIM/SsG3hO8JgcI/AAAAAAAAEKw/-p-B9BFIfQU/s1600-h/4205%2Bditch.jpg ignore the red circle added to the photo but either way that sure was a lot of extra visibility at the time Link to comment
ISO8 Posted January 9, 2012 Share Posted January 9, 2012 Hi,all Here's some pics I found the locomotives with two headlamp. Japanese photographer called them "Kanime (蟹目), meaning "Crab's eye" 19650 http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/br1020er/21028210.html 79613 http://blog.kcg.ne.jp/upload/1086/062058500.jpeg 79615 http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/kasekibannzai51241/11729238.html 79616 http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/br1020er/1504409.html 79618 http://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/br1020er/22390818.html Almost of locomotives needed more lux equipped sub-headlamp, like C62-2. kindly regards, ISO8 Link to comment
worldrailboy Posted January 9, 2012 Author Share Posted January 9, 2012 hehe I can understand why they would probably had called it that btw thanks for that new blog url that I haven't noticed before Link to comment
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