nik_n_dad Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 We're going to be using all or some parts of the Tomytec refinery set for the layout. What would typically be the scenery around the refinery? Are they built on gravel/dirt? Partially paved? The whole thing paved? Any thoughts are helpful. Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Here is an aerial view of Nisseki's Negishi Refinery in Yokohama. This may help to give you an idea of the proportion of concrete/asphalt to open ground. http://maps.google.com/maps?q=yokohama+japan&hl=en&ll=35.412846,139.636424&spn=0.006689,0.01369&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=52.68309,78.837891&vpsrc=6&hnear=Yokohama,+Kanagawa+Prefecture,+Japan&t=h&z=17 As an aside, I lived for many years in El Segundo CA, site of a big Chevron refinery, and on a couple of tours of the facility, I remember seeing lots of berms protecting the fuel tanks covered in asphalt or some dried-out but originally more viscous oil by-product(tar?), to stablize the very sandy soil- obviously a facility like that would have a lot of that material in excess to use. 2 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 I too remember dirt or asphalt berms around tanks from a tour of one ic Richmond ca when I was a kid. In the refinery areas I thin it was all asphalt. Big thing I remember is pipes, lots and lotsa pipes going everywhere. I've always wanted to build one of them. Over the years I've collected a ton of plastic sprues from models to do all this piping everywhere. Sprues have nice right angle bends (both sharp and smooth) and tees got all the piping. Also lots of ladders,walkways, and ladders built up around all the ration and cracking towers and chambers. Keep us posted on your progress. Cheers, Jeff Link to comment
nik_n_dad Posted October 31, 2011 Author Share Posted October 31, 2011 Thanks guys. The aerial photo is pretty cool; never imagined that it could be like a city grid with the paved roads and such. Hopefully within a few weeks we can start posting some worthy photos. Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 An extra: the Negishi refinery is well known as the origin of tanker trains that haul heating oil to Nagano Prefecture, via the Chuo Line/Shinonoi Line/Shinano Rlwy route. Here is the end point of the haul- Sakaki Sta. on the Shinano Rlwy. and the Shin Nihon Sekiyu sidings there (arrival of train): shunting: I had better include a departure, so here's train 5474 departing Negishi, not bound for Sakaki, but rather Minami Matsumoto, but nonetheless similar: Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted October 31, 2011 Share Posted October 31, 2011 Sample pictures of the Negishi Refinery: http://img.47news.jp/PN/201010/PN2010100601000999.-.-.CI0003.jpg at night: http://www.yakei-kabegami.com/cgi-bin/photo2/38/1156/1024-768.jpg http://www.yakei-kabegami.com/cgi-bin/photo2/759/18803/1024-768.jpg pipework: http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/18547215.jpg view of grounds, this is a refinery in Sendai: http://www.noe.jx-group.co.jp/newsrelease/noc/2007/images/20080205_01_01_0860197.jpg Link to comment
nik_n_dad Posted November 1, 2011 Author Share Posted November 1, 2011 pipework:http://static.panoramio.com/photos/original/18547215.jpg This picture is funny- it almost looks like a scale model, not real. Thanks for sharing Link to comment
cteno4 Posted November 1, 2011 Share Posted November 1, 2011 it does feel like a tilt shift image! this is what i was talking about pipework, walkways and ladders! i just remember it going on for ever and ever. jeff Link to comment
cteno4 Posted December 18, 2011 Share Posted December 18, 2011 ok youll have to add this to some of your tanks! http://www.sodahead.com/fun/only-in-japan-decorated-gas-tanks----should-everything-be-a-canvas/question-1570475/?slide=0 cheers jeff Link to comment
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