miyakoji Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 keitaro, you like pointing at the signals and schedule, otherwise known as shisa kanko 指差喚呼? Luckily wikipedia made a page just for you! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pointing_and_calling . Be sure to check out the Japanese version of the page for more images. Youtube has got it covered too... I think this guy covered everything: This looks about right: This youtube contributor seems quite interested in the female conductor: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PToHQ0kOJfk In fact there seems to be lots of videos of female crewmembers. Anywho, I originally looked this up as sasashi kakunin 指さし確認, which is apparently a more generic term. Perhaps Bikkuri can confirm, but I believe that the laminated schedule they use, down to ~5 second increments even on conventional lines, is called a kourohyou 行路表. 4 Link to comment
The_Ghan Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Miyakoji, Thanks for this top post. "Play of the day" in my book. It reminded me of a bus driver on a school trip when I was in highschool. He was forever pointing in each of three directions whenever the bus came to an intersection, pointing as speed limits and then the dashboard speedo, etc. calling out the speed. Then he damn near mounted the kerb because he didn't have both hands on the wheel. Shisa Kanko is one of those things I admire the Japanese for. Their organisational skills and the serious attitude to the task at hand are others. I loved the videos you posted: 1. Does the first guy have a watch on each wrist? Look carefully around the 35s mark, he seems to check the time on his right hand, then later several times on the left. I was wondering what the secret hand signal was after he boarded the train until the little girl said "bye-bye" - clearly it was part of the secret Wiggles handshake. That guy sure knows how to treat his customers right! 2. That train driver is awesome. I love the way he was pointing down the line - just in case his train didn't know which way to go. 3. The female train guard is as cute as a button. I was watching her hand signals and about a minute or so into the clip she definently signals "Have you checked the time? I thought we'd be leaving by now. I want my bento box and then a good lie down!". I thought for a minute that I could take a girl like that home ... but then ... all the shisa kanko going on in the bedroom would take the spontanaety out of it ... wouldn't it? Top post. Cheers The_Ghan Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 Does the first guy have a watch on each wrist? Look carefully around the 35s mark, he seems to check the time on his right hand I think he was checking a compact schedule he keeps in his upper left breast pocket. ...that the laminated schedule they use, down to ~5 second increments even on conventional lines, is called a kourohyou 行路表. Yep. JR's tend to be the big long ones, which fit a stand on the drivers console. Private railways (at least the ones I've seen), tend to have smaller ones, about half A4 size. You can find surplus ones for sale at railfan shops, and sometimes at rail depot open days. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted June 28, 2011 Share Posted June 28, 2011 I just heard today that a friend of mine got a job at Tôkyû (東京急行電鉄). She's not a Tetsu, but her friend is as hardcore as I am (maybe a bit more actually). The next time I'm in Japan I'll ask her about her work and Shisha Kanko, as my girlfriend said she has to work the station platforms first before she starts on her real job. I think she'll be working the smaller lines (Tamagawa, Den-en-Toshi, etc.). Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted June 29, 2011 Share Posted June 29, 2011 I think she'll be working the smaller lines (Tamagawa, Den-en-Toshi, etc.). The Tamagawa Line would be considered a smaller line, but the Den-En-Toshi is major league main line- rush hour is up there in density and frequency among the Tokyo commutes. When there are delays (which aren't infrequent), trains are stacked up to each other (dango jotai), as close as the ATC permits. 1 Link to comment
miyakoji Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share Posted July 4, 2011 as close as the ATC permits. It permits pretty close! http://www.jnsforum.com/index.php/topic,5084.0.html Link to comment
westfalen Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 Perhaps Bikkuri can confirm, but I believe that the laminated schedule they use, down to ~5 second increments even on conventional lines, is called a kourohyou 行路表. I gave one of my old job cards to a JR guard who came for a ride with me in Brisbane a few years ago, I'm sure he was thinking, "Is this all you guys have to work from??" I was wondering what the secret hand signal was after he boarded the train until the little girl said "bye-bye" - clearly it was part of the secret Wiggles handshake. That guy sure knows how to treat his customers right! It's probably just as much directed towards the little girls mother, trust me, I'm a train driver. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 I think she'll be working the smaller lines (Tamagawa, Den-en-Toshi, etc.). The Tamagawa Line would be considered a smaller line, but the Den-En-Toshi is major league main line- rush hour is up there in density and frequency among the Tokyo commutes. When there are delays (which aren't infrequent), trains are stacked up to each other (dango jotai), as close as the ATC permits. Ah yes, sorry about that. I did it from top of my head. I'm not really a Tôkyû fan, so that might have been the problem... Link to comment
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