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I just got word that the tour to Argentina I was going on in November has been cancelled because of the Patagonian Express being blown off the track. Time to start planning 'plan B', three weeks or so in Japan.

 

At this stage I am thinking of spending time in Nagoya, western Honshu and Kyushu.

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bikkuri bahn

November is a nice time to travel in Japan (peak of autumn) though the hours of available light are less than summer.

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CaptOblivious

If yhou do go, I'll be in Kyoto or thereabouts during that time. Would love to meet up!

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For your perusal and comment this is a rough outline of what I've got planned so far.

 

DAY 1 (November 1st)

Arrive Kansai International Airport early evening, travel to Osaka.

Overnight Osaka

DAY 2

In morning travel to Nagoya via Kintetsu Ltd Exp. I’ve never travelled between the two cities by that route and never ridden a Kintetsu Ltd Exp so that will be two birds killed with one stone.

 

That afternoon and the next four days will be in Nagoya, plans are to visit the new railway museum and ride as much of the Meitetsu system as I can as well as the following.

JR Taketoyo line and Meitetsu lines south of Nagoya

 

JR Meisho Line and Kintestsu to Kashikojima.

 

Lines around Ōgaki.

 

Nagaragawa Railway

DAY 7

Travel to Miyazaki via Kagoshima, includes Sakura #549 the full length of the run from Osaka to Kagoshima. Arriving Miyazaki late afternoon.

DAY 8

JR Nichinan Line

DAY 9

Travel Miyazaki to Hakata via Oita arriving mid afternoon.

DAYS 10, 11, 12

In Hakata. Plans are to ride lines in northern  Kyushu I haven’t done, JR and Nishitetsu. One day will be tracking down the Mitsui Miike Railway freight operation in Omuta.

DAY 13

Travel to Hiroshima in morning via Shinkansen

Afternoon riding trams.

DAYS 14, 15, 16

In Hiroshima

One day will be riding JR Sanko Line, returning via Masuda and Shin-Yamaguchi.

The other two days I’m planning to travel west to Kushigahama and via the Gantoku Line and return via the Sanyo Main Line, then east to Mihara via the Kure Line and return via the Sanyo Main Line. Both days I’ll be looking out for good places to stop along the way for some lineside video of freight trains.

DAY 17

Travel to Takamatsu in morning, arrive mid morning.

Afternoon riding Kotoden

DAY 18

Ride JR and Asatetsu to Kannoura.

DAY 19

Travel to via ferry to Uno then JR 3’6” lines to Osaka, just for a change from the Grand Seto Bridge and Shinkansens.

DAYS 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

In Osaka, riding private railways in area, shopping and winding down for the trip home. Haven’t ruled out one day while my railpass is still valid taking a Shinkansen to Tokyo just for the fun of it to check out hobby shops and do a lap around the Yamanote Line.

Fly out of Kansai International on evening of day 25 arriving home next morning.

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bikkuri bahn

Looks to be a very good plan, of areas not usually covered by visitors outside Japan.  Shortly I'll be doing a similar trip of sorts, (highly) compressed into eight days, of many of your locations, minus Shikoku and southern Nagoya.

 

Your visit to the Meitetsu Lines is admirable.  I've never really warmed to this railway- to me it feels the most "foreign" of all railways in Japan (except perhaps Nishitetsu), but every time I visit, it's "differentness" also intrigues me.  A photo location I've been wanting to get to for awhile now is the truss bridge over the Kiso River on the main line to Gifu.  It has a nice curving approach on the Gifu side of the river that would make a nice photo location:

http://blog-imgs-30.fc2.com/p/i/r/piro3/20100404_011.jpg

 

website for above:

http://piro3.blog5.fc2.com/category6-18.html

 

Bridge shot:

http://blogimg.goo.ne.jp/user_image/1b/1b/65808368d8af8ad387c713bbb20b3343.jpg

 

website:

http://blog.goo.ne.jp/tcc_kazu_029/e/c1a0f6859a2f01224e0746ef744c5018

 

Kintetsu has some impressive truss bridges also in the Nagoya area, on its

Nagoya Main Line south to Mie pref. Fun to ride a local at the front to see ahead when crossing these long bridges.

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"I've never really warmed to this railway- to me it feels the most "foreign" of all railways in Japan (except perhaps Nishitetsu)"

 

And I'm doing both. :cheesy

 

That Meitetsu bridge looks like a good spot, I might see if I can get there.

 

I took a Kintetsu local back to Nagoya after riding the Sangi Railway in 1996 and the bridges you speak of are impressive.

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Westfalen,

 

If you're using Hyperdia to plan routes, then try this:

http://modelrail.otenko.com/japantimetable/test.html

 

(Japan is default, just click "Add Route" to get started... the dep/arr boxes will auto-complete.)

 

I wrote a site (and never finished it, but it's 99% usable) for allowing a much easier method of splitting routes for stopovers, etc...

 

Steven.

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bikkuri bahn

Kiso River Bridge, Meitetsu:

 

Here is the Kintetsu crossing of the Kiso River, between Yatomi and Nagashima:

 

*the best scene is the last starting at 2:14, with a 2600 series climbing the grade up to the bridge and a nice blast of the horn- classic Kintetsu!

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If you want to get to the bridge, it will involve a 500m or so walk from Kasamatsu Station:

http://maps.google.com/maps?q=nagoya+japan&hl=en&ll=35.371362,136.762426&spn=0.011495,0.024698&sll=37.996163,-95.712891&sspn=43.319537,67.851563&z=16

 

Kasamatsu Station itself has some interest as the terminal of the Takehana Branch Line.

I've walked further than that to get to good photo locations and my doctor says I need the exercise.

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Westfalen,

 

If you're using Hyperdia to plan routes, then try this:

http://modelrail.otenko.com/japantimetable/test.html

 

(Japan is default, just click "Add Route" to get started... the dep/arr boxes will auto-complete.)

 

I wrote a site (and never finished it, but it's 99% usable) for allowing a much easier method of splitting routes for stopovers, etc...

 

Steven.

Thanks, I'll give it a try but I'm a bit old fashioned, I like browsing through a timetable though I do use Hyperdia to check if times are still current and for new services that have started since my timetable was printed.

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I hope you are going to take lots of photos like you did on your last trip, it was fun viewing your last vacation.

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then east to Mihara via the Kure Line and return via the Sanyo Main Line.

 

Today I took a trip on the (single track) Kure Line.  Beware, there are few trains on the stretch of line between Hiro and Mihara.  However, this is the more scenic portion of the line, with a section skirting the coast, where you can see the clear waters just out and below the window on one notable stretch.  You are also reminded of the shipbuilding industry, with seemingly almost every town having a shipyard, some with massive container or tanker ships being built.  There are also many slow orders on this line, with limits of 20/25km/h, not sure of the reason.  Rolling stock is 113/115 series as far as Hiro, or if you're lucky, a 103 series.  From Hiro it's 105 series.  Track is jointed, with mainly wooden sleepers.  The jointed track makes for a lively and fun galloping ride.  Many of the stations have long platforms, perhaps a legacy of the era when this line hosted overnight sleeper trains, or just when people rode trains more.

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Both days I’ll be looking out for good places to stop along the way for some lineside video of freight trains.

 

Advice about the Sanyo Line between Mihara and Kaitaichi- perhaps it was the time (midafternoon~early evening), but there were few freight trains, maybe one an hour.  I only saw one train with a pusher on the Senohachi portion.  Likely early morning or evening(?) would be better times.  Consulting a JRF timetable would be beneficial. All freights were pulled by EF210.

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then east to Mihara via the Kure Line and return via the Sanyo Main Line.

 

Today I took a trip on the (single track) Kure Line.  Beware, there are few trains on the stretch of line between Hiro and Mihara.  However, this is the more scenic portion of the line, with a section skirting the coast, where you can see the clear waters just out and below the window on one notable stretch.  You are also reminded of the shipbuilding industry, with seemingly almost every town having a shipyard, some with massive container or tanker ships being built.  There are also many slow orders on this line, with limits of 20/25km/h, not sure of the reason.  Rolling stock is 113/115 series as far as Hiro, or if you're lucky, a 103 series.  From Hiro it's 105 series.  Track is jointed, with mainly wooden sleepers.  The jointed track makes for a lively and fun galloping ride.  Many of the stations have long platforms, perhaps a legacy of the era when this line hosted overnight sleeper trains, or just when people rode trains more.

Sounds like the type of line I enjoy riding.

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Both days I’ll be looking out for good places to stop along the way for some lineside video of freight trains.

 

Advice about the Sanyo Line between Mihara and Kaitaichi- perhaps it was the time (midafternoon~early evening), but there were few freight trains, maybe one an hour.  I only saw one train with a pusher on the Senohachi portion.  Likely early morning or evening(?) would be better times.  Consulting a JRF timetable would be beneficial. All freights were pulled by EF210.

 

I'm flexible with my times. I guess it would depend on where the majority of trains originate and what time they would make it to that location.

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Booked my accommodation with Toyoko Inns and ordered my Japan Railpass yesterday. The internet certainly makes arranging a trip to Japan easier than it used to be.

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This is what I've worked out so far if. I haven't got anything specific planned for Osaka yet but as there's so much there and I've never spent much time in that city my to-do list would be a several megabyte download.

 

DAY 1 – Tuesday 1st November

Booval                              0442  QR Ipswich Line (1105)

Roma Street              0533  0537  QR Gold Coast Line (TG06)

Varsity Lakes             0702

Taxi to Coolangatta Airport

Coolangatta Airport             1005  Jetstar JQ19

Kansai Kūkō               1820  2036  Nankai Kūkō Line/Nankai Main Line (Ltd Exp Rapit #74)

Namba                      2113

Overnight Ōsaka

Toyoko Inn Ōsaka Nanba

DAY 2 – Wednesday 2nd November

Ōsaka-Namba                      0900 Kintetsu Namba/Ōsaka/Nagoya Lines (Urban Liner #9)

Kintetsu-Nagoya         1107

Afternoon in Nagoya

Visit SCMaglev and Railway Park

Overnight Nagoya

Toyoko Inn  Nagoya-eki Sakuradori-guchi Shinkan

DAY 3 – Thursday 3rd November

Taketoyo

Nagoya                              0747 JR Tokaido Main Line

Obu                          0803  0807 JR Taketoyo Line

Higashiura       0819

Film any Kinūra Rinkai Railway freight, then

Higashinarawa                     1246

Taketoyo                   1254

Walk to Meitetsu Chitataketoyo station

Chitataketoyo                     1317  Meitetsu Kowa Line

Kowa                        1327  1417

Fuki                          1424  1427  Meitetsu Chita line

Utsumi                      1445  1515  Meitetsu Chita/Kowa Lines (Ltd Exp)

Otagawa                   1556  1607  Meitetsu Tokoname/Airport Line (Semi Exp)

Central Jpn Int Airport 1633  1647  (Ltd Exp)

Meitetsu Nagoya         1724

Overnight Nagoya

Toyoko Inn  Nagoya-eki Sakuradori-guchi Shinkan

DAY 4 – Friday 4th November

Nagaragawa Railway

Meitetsu Nagoya                  0740  Meitetsu Inuyama Line (Mu-Sky Ltd Exp)

Shinunuma                  0809

Walk to JR Unuma

Unuma                                0831  JR Takayama Line

Mino-Ōta                    0836  0950  Nagaragawa Railway

Hakunō                      1145  1220

Gujohachiman             1300  1453

Mino-Ōta                   1610  1638  JR Taita Line

Kani                          1646

Walk to Meitetsu Shin-Kani station

Shin-Kani                            1714  Meitetsu Hiromi Line

Mitake                       1725  1729

Shin-Kani                   1740  1744

Inuyama                    1804  1809  Meitetsu inuyama Line

Meitetsu Nagoya         1844

Overnight Nagoya

Toyoko Inn  Nagoya-eki Sakuradori-guchi Shinkan

DAY 5 – Saturday 5th November

Meitetsu North/Tarumi Railway

Meitetsu Nagoya                   0739  Meitetsu Nagoya Line

Kasamatsu                  0806

Film trains on Kisagawa bridge

Kasamatsu                           0940  Meitetsu Takehana/Shin Hashima line

Shinhasima                  1002  1006

Kasamatsu                  1029  1032  Meitetsu Nagoya Line

Meitetsu Gifu               1037  1045  Meitetsu Kakamigahara Line

Shinnaka                     1058  1058

Inuyamayuen               1112

Film around Inuyama

Unuma                                 1237  JR Takayama Line

Gifu                            1302  1319  JR Tokaido Main Line

Ogaki                          1331  1337  Tarumi Railway

Tarumi                        1442  1458

Ogaki                          1602  1622  Yoro Railway

Ibi                              1646  1712

Ogaki                          1739  1741

Kuwana                       1857  1904  JR Kansai line

Nagoya                       1935

Overnight Nagoya

Toyoko Inn  Nagoya-eki Sakuradori-guchi Shinkan

DAY 5 – Sunday 6th November

Meitetsu South/Akechi Railway

Meitetsu Nagoya                   0803  Meitetsu Nagoya Line

Chiryu                         0823  0832  Meitetsu Mikawa line

Hekinan                       0907  0912

Chiryu                         0944  0947  Meitetsu Nagoya Line

Shinanjo                      0952  0952  Meitetsu Nishio Line

Kirayoshida                  1025  1031  Meitetsu Gamagori Line

Gamagori                     1101  1111  JR Tokaido Main Line

Toyohashi                   1122  1132  Meitetsu Nagoya Line

Meitetsu Nagoya          1221

Nagoya                                1332 JR Chuo Line

Ena                            1434  1454  Akechi Railway

Akechi                        1543  1606

Ena                            1654  1716  JR Chuo Line

Nagoya                       1818

Overnight Nagoya

Toyoko Inn  Nagoya-eki Sakuradori-guchi Shinkan

DAY 6 – Monday 7th November

Nagoya to Miyazaki

Nagoya                               0756  Tokaido Shinkansen (Kodama #695)

Shin-Ōsaka                 0903  0959  Sanyo/Kyushu Shinkansen (Sakura #549)

Kagoshima-Chuo          1409  1428  JR Nippō Main Line (Ltd Exp Kirishima #12)

Miyazaki                     1627

Overnight Miyazaki

Toyoko Inn Miyazaki Ekimae

DAY 7 – Tuesday 8th November

Miyazaki Airport/Nichinan Line

Miyazaki                               0833  JR Miyazaki Kūkō Line (Ltd Exp Hyuga #7)

Miyazaki-Kūkō               0841  0925

Miyazaki                      0940  1030  JR Nichinan Line

Shibushi                      1309  1344

Aburatsu                     1454  1457

Minamimiyazaki             1616  1636

Miyazaki                      1639

Overnight Miyazaki

Overnight Miyazaki

Toyoko Inn Miyazaki Ekimae

DAY 8 – Wednesday 9th November

Miyazaki to Hakata

Miyazaki                               0807  JR Nippō Main Line (Ltd Exp Nichirin #6)

Oita                            1106  1245  JR Kagoshima Main Line (Ltd Exp Sonic #32)

Hakata                        1446

Afternoon free in Hakata/Fukuoka

Overnight Hakata

Toyoko Inn

Hakata-guchi Ekimae

DAY 9 – Thursday 10th November

Nishitetsu/Mitsui Miike Railway

Hakata                                  0607  Fukuoka City Subway Kuko Line

Tenjin                           0612

Nishitetsufukuoka                    0624  Nishitetsu Tenjin Omuta Line (Ltd Exp)

Shinsakaemachi              0724

Film operations on Mitsui Miike Railway

Shinsakaemachi                       1324  Nishitetsu Tenjin Omuta Line (Ltd Exp)

Nishitetsukarume             1352  1356  (Local)

Miyanojin                       1358  1415  Nishitetsu Amagi Line

Amagi (Nishitetsu)           1448

Amagi (Amatetsu)                    1524  Amagi Railway

Kiyama                          1550  1558

Ogori                            1604

Nishitetsuogori                        1614  Nishitestsu Tenjin Omuta Line (Ltd Exp)

Nisitestsufutsukaichi        1626  1629  Nishitestsu Dazaifu Line

Dazaifu                         1635  1716

Nisitestsufutsukaichi        1723  1727  Nishitetsu Tenjin Omuta Line (Ltd Exp)

Nishtetsufukuoka            1746

Tenjin                                    1748  Fukuoka City Subway Kuko Line

Hakata                          1757

Overnight Hakata

Toyoko Inn

Hakata-guchi Ekimae

DAY 10 – Friday 11th November

Nōgata/Tagawa

Hakata                                   0819  JR Kagoshima Line

Haruda                          0853  0903  JR Haruda Line

Keisen                           0931  0959  JR Fukuhoku Yutaka line Rapid

Nogata                          1024

Chikuhonogata                         1110  Chikuho Electric Railroad

Kurosakiekimae               1143

Kurosaki                                 1150  JR Kagoshima Line

Kokura                           1213  1321  JR Hitahikosan Line

Tagawagotoji                  1416  1419  JR Gotoji Line

Shin-Īzuka                      1439  1456  JR Fukuhoku Yutaka line Rapid

Hakata                           1548

Overnight Hakata

Toyoko Inn

Hakata-guchi Ekimae

DAY 11 – Saturday 12th November

Karatsu/Shimabara

Hakata                                    0700  Fukuoka City Subway Kuko Line

Meinohama                      0719  0720  JR Chikuhi Line (through train)

Nishikaratsu                    0830  0847  JR Karatsu Line

Yamamoto                      0911  0942  JR Chikuhi Line

Imari                              1021  1102

Yamamoto                      1143  1250  JR Karatsu Line

Saga                              1350  1433  JR Nagasaki Line (Ltd Exp Kamome #25)

Isahaya                          1531  1548  Shimabara Railway

Shimabaragaiko                1653  1730  Ferry

Kumamoto Port                 1800

Shuttle bus to Kumamoto station

Kumamoto                                1911  JR Kyushu Shinkansen (Sakura #580)

Hakata                            1951

Overnight Hakata

Toyoko Inn

Hakata-guchi Ekimae

DAY 12 – Sunday 13th November

Hakata to Hiroshima

Hakata                                     0934  JR Sanyo Shinkansen (Hikari Railstar #548)

Hiroshima                         1047

Afternoon free in Hiroshima

Overnight Hiroshima

Toyoko inn

Hiroshima-ekimae Ohashi-minami

DAY 13 – Monday 14th November

Hiroshima - west

Hiroshima                                 0739  JR Sanyo Main Line

Iwakuni                           0830  0833  Nishikigawa Railway

Nishikicho                        0941  0952

Kawanishi                        1046  1122  JR Gantoku Line

Tokuyama                       1228  1330  JR Sanyo Main Line

Hiroshima                        1531

Overnight Hiroshima

Toyoko inn

Hiroshima-ekimae Ohashi-minami

DAY 14 – Tuesday 15th November

Sankō Line

Hiroshima                                 0753  JR Geibi Line

Miyoshi                           0946  0957  JR Sanko Line

Iwamikawamoto                1208  1351

Gōtsu                             1457  1621  JR San-in/Yamaguchi Lines (Ltd Exp Super Oki #5)

Shin-Yamaguchi               1851  1916  JR Sanyo Shinkansen (Hikari Railstar #526)

Hiroshima                        1949

Overnight Hiroshima

Toyoko inn

Hiroshima-ekimae Ohashi-minami

DAY 15 – Wednesday 16th November

Hiroshima East

Hiroshima                                 0721  JR Kure Line

Hiro                                0817  0824

Mihara                            0943  0953  JR Sanyo Main Line

Return to Hiroshima via JR Sanyo Main Line with photo stops enroute.

Overnight Hiroshima

Toyoko inn

Hiroshima-ekimae Ohashi-minami

DAY 16 – Thursday 17th November

Hiroshima to Takamatsu

Hiroshima                                 0815  JR Sanyo Shinkansen (Sakura #544)

Okayama                         0857  0932  JR Seto-Ohashi, Yosan Lines (Marine Line #17)

Takamatsu                       1025

Leave bags at station or hotel

Takamatsu Chikko                      1208  Kotoden Nagao Line

Nagao                             1247  1328

Kawaramachi                    1400  1405  Kotoden Kotohira Line

Kotoden Kotohira              1506  1513

Takamatsu Chikko             1613

Overnight Takamatsu

Toyoko Inn

Takamatsu Hyogomachi

DAY 17 – Friday 18th November

Asa Kaigan Railway

Takamatsu                                0822  JR Kōtoku Line (Ltd Exp Uzushio #3)

Tokushima                        0935  0951  JR Mugu Line (Ltd Exp Muroto #1)

Mugi                                1059  1105

Kaifu                               1119  1128  Asa Kaigan Railway

Kannora                           1139  1216

Kaifu                               1227  1233

Mugi                                1247  1356

Anan                               1454  1523

Tokushima                        1612  1649  JR Kōtoku Line (Ltd Exp Uzushio #22)

Takamatsu                       1744

Overnight Takamatsu

Takamatsu Hyogomachi

DAY 18 – Saturday 19th November

Takamatsu to Ōsaka

Takamatsu                                0845  Utaka-Kokudō Ferry

Uno                                 0950  1027  JR Uno Line

Chayamachi                      1054  1119  (Marine Liner #24)

Okayama                          1132  1155  JR Sanyo Main Line/Ako line

Banshuako                        1306  1336  JR Ako/Sanyo Main Line (Special Rapid Service)

Ōsaka                              1513  1515  JR Ōsaka loop line

Noda                               1521

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 19 – Sunday 20th November

Ōsaka Area

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 20 – Monday 21st November

Ōsaka Area

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 21 – Tuesday 22nd November

Ōsaka Area

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 22 – Wednesday 23rd November

Ōsaka Area

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 23 – Thursday 24th November

Ōsaka Area

Overnight Ōsaka

JR Noda Ekimae

DAY 24 – Friday 25th November

Ōsaka Area

Kansai Kūkō                        2050  Jetstar JQ20

Overnight on plane

Day 25 – Saturday 26th November

Coolangatta Airport      0655  0807  Surfside Buslines route 761

Varsity Lakes              0837  0848  QR Gold Coast Line (TP29)

Roma Street               1006  1030  QR Ipswich line (1524)

Booval                       1121

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Looks like a fine itinerary.

 

I haven't got anything specific planned for Osaka yet but as there's so much there and I've never spent much time in that city my to-do list would be a several megabyte download.

 

Will be interesting to read your impressions of the railways there.  To me, the railways there come closest to maintaining the "feel" of JNR and private railways when I was younger (1980's)- with homogenization and interline running now the rule in Kanto, my interests focus on Kansai, and heck, even the Nagoya area with Meitetsu's quirkiness appeals, and Kintetsu is there too.

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One of my quests in Osaka is to see the last remaining EH10 which is held captive in a cage in a park at Awaji.

 

Yikes! That's akin to caging a bengal tiger in a small box.  Much better if they moved it to the planned joint JR West/Private Railways museum at Umekoji, Kyoto.  It deserves to be under better cover (inside) but allowing visitors closer to touch, as at the JR Tokai and JR East museums.  I wish museums would focus a little more on the freight side of railways, but anyway...

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I've downloaded an app for my Iphone called 'Gogo Japan', a GPS app that, apart from having an English menu, allows you to enter phone numbers for businesses which are then pinpointed on the map. Should be handy for tracking down hobby shops from magazine ads.

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westfallen,

 

hey thats a nifty app and perfect for finding hobby shops like that as many the only thing they list is a phone number that easy to pull!

 

jeff

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CaptOblivious

I've downloaded an app for my Iphone called 'Gogo Japan', a GPS app that, apart from having an English menu, allows you to enter phone numbers for businesses which are then pinpointed on the map. Should be handy for tracking down hobby shops from magazine ads.

 

A real shame there's no Android version!

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Westfalen,

 

I love your itinerary ... however, Mrs_Ghan would shoot me half-way through day 3.  There appears to be no shopping stops or renown restaurants booked !!!

 

Cheers

 

The_Ghan

 

PS: don't suggest a bento box ... or you'll be wearing it ... you don't know Mrs_Ghan !!!

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