Nick_Burman Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Hi all, how was mail handled on the private railways? I know that some of the busier lines had baggage-mail cars which ran on regular schedules (Odakyu was one railway which did that), but what about the lesser lines? Cheers NB Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Good question, and an area of interest for me, though unfortunately little consolidated information out there. Some of the other private railway operators that carried the mails were: 1. Nagano Dentetsu (Nagano-Yudanaka, 2RT/day, mail not sorted enroute, but manned), *ended Oct. 1962 2. Tobu Rlwy (Isezaki Line, Asakusa-Isezaki, 2RT/day) (Tojo Line, Ikebukuro-Yorii 2RT/day) 3. (mentioned) Odakyu Rlwy (Shinjuku-Odawara, 2RT/day) 4. Nankai Rlwy (Nankai Nanba-Wakayama, 2RT/day) 5. Chichibu Rlwy (Kumagaya-Arakawa, 2RT/day) 6. Koujaku Rlwy (Otsu-Oumi Imazu, 2RT/day) 7. Oumi Rlwy (Maibara-Kibukawa, 2RT/day) 8. Shimabara Rlwy (Isehaya-Kazusa, 2RT/day) 9. Nansatsu Rlwy (Ijuin-Kaseda, 2RT/day) (Kaseda-Makurazaki, 1RT/day) As you can see, most routes were 2 roundtrips a day. I suspect private railways were contracted in areas where an equivalent JNR line was absent, or road routes were inadequate. Also, the Odakyu Line is an important cross-country route in southern Kanto/Kanagawa. 1 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted May 16, 2011 Share Posted May 16, 2011 Nansatsu/Kagoshima Kotsu Makurazaki Line: I love this picture, not on a private railway, but rather JNR Otaru Station. One of the last mail cars in operation on the JNR, this one on mail/express train #46 was designated Northeast Boat (route) 21, on a Nemuro-Tokyo routing (Aug. 1986): source: http://homepage2.nifty.com/~c5550/senro63.htm 2 Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted May 16, 2011 Author Share Posted May 16, 2011 Good question, and an area of interest for me, though unfortunately little consolidated information out there. Some of the other private railway operators that carried the mails were: 1. Nagano Dentetsu (Nagano-Yudanaka, 2RT/day, mail not sorted enroute, but manned), *ended Oct. 1962 2. Tobu Rlwy (Isezaki Line, Asakusa-Isezaki, 2RT/day) (Tojo Line, Ikebukuro-Yorii 2RT/day) 3. (mentioned) Odakyu Rlwy (Shinjuku-Odawara, 2RT/day) 4. Nankai Rlwy (Nankai Nanba-Wakayama, 2RT/day) 5. Chichibu Rlwy (Kumagaya-Arakawa, 2RT/day) 6. Koujaku Rlwy (Otsu-Oumi Imazu, 2RT/day) 7. Oumi Rlwy (Maibara-Kibukawa, 2RT/day) 8. Shimabara Rlwy (Isehaya-Kazusa, 2RT/day) 9. Nansatsu Rlwy (Ijuin-Kaseda, 2RT/day) (Kaseda-Makurazaki, 1RT/day) As you can see, most routes were 2 roundtrips a day. I suspect private railways were contracted in areas where an equivalent JNR line was absent, or road routes were inadequate. Also, the Odakyu Line is an important cross-country route in southern Kanto/Kanagawa. Thank you very much BB. As I've said before, some lines (Odakyu) had baggage-mail motor cars for mail and express service. Other lines (Ichibata Railway) had "combine" motors (baggage-passenger). But what about those lines which had no dedicated mail-handling rolling stock, how did the mail travel? With the passengers under the care of the conductor or of a postal worker, in an attached boxcar? Also I forgot to ask...does the Japanese postal system have a "peak" period like the Western systems (Christmas, New Year, etc...)? Cheers NB Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 I suppose those railways without dedicated rolling stock would just rope off a portion of the passenger car, and have either an attendant or conductor handle mail loading/unloading. The peak mail season would be New Years, with considerable mail traffic beginning around approx. Christmas time and running until a week or so into January. 1 Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted May 17, 2011 Share Posted May 17, 2011 According to the caption, this wafu 28000 type was used by the Kosaka Rlwy. to carry mail, as well as packages and LCL cargo: http://satoyama.in/info/sharyo/img/imgBB180.jpg webpage: http://satoyama.in/auto/sharyo/auto180.html Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted May 18, 2011 Author Share Posted May 18, 2011 According to the caption, this wafu 28000 type was used by the Kosaka Rlwy. to carry mail, as well as packages and LCL cargo: http://satoyama.in/info/sharyo/img/imgBB180.jpg webpage: http://satoyama.in/auto/sharyo/auto180.html G-r-r-r-eat, BB! Thanks again, this the info I was looking for. I have two similar cars in my collection and wanted to know if I could use them for mail and LCL. Is a WaFu considered a brake van with freight compartment or a boxcar with conductor's compartment? Cheers NB Link to comment
Tenorikuma Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Also I forgot to ask...does the Japanese postal system have a "peak" period like the Western systems (Christmas, New Year, etc...)? It is the custom for everyone to write special New Year postcards to friends, family, and co-workers. These all need to be delivered right on New Year's Day. To handle the crunch, the Japanese Post Office hires some 500,000 temporary employees for two weeks. Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted May 18, 2011 Share Posted May 18, 2011 Is a WaFu considered a brake van with freight compartment or a boxcar with conductor's compartment? It's classified as a boxcar with a brake (conductor's) compartment. The "wa" is the designation for "yougaisha" or boxcar/goods van, and the "fu" is the designation for brake compartment. 1 Link to comment
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