bill937ca Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Anyone know what a Japanese railway means when it says the diamond is changing? Hint: it's not track. I will post the answer later. Link to comment
Bernard Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 My guess (and I do mean guess) is it would have to do with the gate at a RR crossing going down. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 Good guess, but that's not it. It's on paper or more recently a computer. Link to comment
stevenh Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 We totally need more clues :) I just google'd quickly and came up with things like the "Mitsubishi" 3-Diamond signal which indicates a slower speed restriction in the next block... and also the fact that a pantograph is lowering/raising? But they don't sound right... my initial idea was that the Boss was getting fired ;D Anyway... feel free to lead us in the right direction. Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted November 5, 2008 Share Posted November 5, 2008 We totally need more clues :) I just google'd quickly and came up with things like the "Mitsubishi" 3-Diamond signal which indicates a slower speed restriction in the next block... and also the fact that a pantograph is lowering/raising? But they don't sound right... my initial idea was that the Boss was getting fired ;D Anyway... feel free to lead us in the right direction. Don't they have the LED diamonds at the end of the station platform that tells the motorman where to stop his train along the platform (or better yet to say as to how much space the train has left on the platform as where to stop so that all doors can open on to the platoform) . Especially on Shinkansens since the doors need to be aligned up correctly with the openings of the platform handrails. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3c/500_series_Shinkansen_train_at_Tokyo_Station.jpg/800px-500_series_Shinkansen_train_at_Tokyo_Station.jpg http://gardkarlsen.com/japan/shinkansen_JR500.jpg Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Several good trys. But I think it's time to give you the answer. When schedule changes occur you will see a reference like "diamond revision" if you translate the notice. These are notices (in Japanese) for a Nishi-Nippon Railroad diamond revision in March 2008. http://www.hobidas.com/news/article/81009.html http://www.nishitetsu.co.jp/release/2007/07_129.htm Japanese railways have a schedule and a diagram of where all trains will be at any given time. There are multiple diagonal lines criss-crossing on a graph. One axis is the time, the other the stations. That diagram is referred to as "the diamond." With regular interval headways the meeting points form diamonds on the diagram. Usually we don't get to see the diamond, but sometimes we do. When the Kotoden retired its fleet of vintage EMUs in 2007, it published a schedule and diamond for the various commorative runs in a pdf (below). The excursions occurred on August 11 and 12, 2007. Although the diamond is in Kanji, the station distances match up the Kotohira line station spacings. http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_0811/image/2007_081112_315.pdf The regular trains are shown with the black lines. About half of the trains turnback at Okamoto Station. The red and blue lines are the excursion trains that Kotoden ran. This line is single track with passing sidings only at stations. JR has an automated system to make these matrix diagrams, but reportedly it is training its employees on writing these diagrams by hand. This might be necessary in the event of a typhoon or an earthquake to get the trains back running. There is at least one model railroad club that uses diamonds in its operations. There is a track plan which is needed to create the timetable and then at the bottom of the page is the diamond. http://www.familybook.net/omrc/021208dia.html There was a magazine that published these diagrams in Japan, but they the text was so small they were almost impossible to read. So that is the answer! Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 5, 2008 Author Share Posted November 5, 2008 Here's another example Kotoden retired car 65 on Sunday November 4, 2007 Notice: http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_1104/index.htm Timetable http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_1104/image/65jikokuhyou.pdf Diamond: http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_1104/image/65dia.pdf Car 65's commemorative run was on the Kotohira line also. The last 27 series cars were retired on July 7, 2007 on the Shido line. http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_0707/index.htm Here's the timetable and diamond. http://www.kotoden.co.jp/publichtm/kotoden/new/2007/2007_0707/image/2007.07.07dia.pdf Link to comment
bill937ca Posted December 7, 2008 Author Share Posted December 7, 2008 This another example. http://pacrimhq.fujitawork.com/2007/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/op-diag-for-12-noon-july-25-1985-tokaido-and-sanyo-shinkansen-lines_sm.jpg Operational Diagram for 12:00 noon, July 25, 1985 Tokaido and Sanyo Shinkansen Lines. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted August 29, 2009 Author Share Posted August 29, 2009 Bump! I recently came across an example of a diamond. The top part with red (express) and black (local) is for the Tokyu Den-en-toshi line and the bottom section is for the Oimaci Line. Stations and the distances between stations are listed down the left side. You can see where express trains overtake local trains. This diamond from a train simulation blog. Link to comment
Mudkip Orange Posted August 30, 2009 Share Posted August 30, 2009 Interesting. Traffic engineers use almost the exact same system to figure out how to time signal lights. Link to comment
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