cteno4 Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 OSLO, Norway (AP) — A tram derailed in downtown Oslo and plowed into a phone and computer shop on Tuesday, Norwegian police… https://apnews.com/article/666020291c635d8b1f99330a971c2618 jeff Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) Speed was probably involved, but from what I am hearing when a tram derails it looses most of its braking power once the wheels leave the rails. Only the very rear truck was on the rails. Apparently Oslo has had several derailments with CAF trams built in Spain. When a tram goes through turnouts and crossovers it is riding on the flanges not the wheel tread. Generally trams going through special work are limited to 10-12 km/hr. Edited October 31 by bill937ca Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 31 Share Posted October 31 (edited) Brief footage of the tram in motion. Early AM? Did the operator fall asleep with his hand on the throttle? It is now reported, "The Tram made a turn at over 35 km/h, in a turn where the maximum permitted speed was 15 km/h." Edited October 31 by bill937ca Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted Monday at 10:37 AM Share Posted Monday at 10:37 AM I've taken a tram on this exact line many times when I lived in Oslo. For a lot of these sharper curves, trams often slow down to close to brisk walking pace. For whatever reason, this tram was going much faster than it should. Last I read, the driver had been charged, even though at the time they didn't have a definitive reason for the derailment. Ever since then it's been rather quiet, but they did say the investigation could take up to a year. Link to comment
chadbag Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 04:49 PM (edited) The name of the store that got crashed into is interesting: eplehuset -- The Apple House. I wonder what sort of computers and phones are sold there? Edited Tuesday at 05:44 PM by chadbag Link to comment
bill937ca Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:31 PM Just a bilingual sign. In Norwegian eplehuset translates to "the apple house". Appears to be an Apple Store. Better that than a cafe or coffeehouse that would be packed with people by the windows. 1 Link to comment
chadbag Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM Share Posted Tuesday at 05:51 PM 13 minutes ago, bill937ca said: Just a bilingual sign. In Norwegian eplehuset translates to "the apple house". Appears to be an Apple Store. Better that than a cafe or coffeehouse that would be packed with people by the windows. I think you missed the light hearted sarcasm of my post 🙂 Also, it doesn't look bi-lingual to me. It just says eplehuset on it. (And it would be a 3rd party re-seller of Apple products and not an official Apple Store -- those have a world wide branding) (For the non Scandinavian speakers amongst us, the main line Scandinavian languages append the definite article (suffix) on the end of the word so hus -- house -- huset -- the house. There are regional dialects that don't do this. To confuse matters more, if there is an adjective, then there is both a definite article and the suffix. I only had one semester of Norwegian but have been studying Swedish, university a couple semesters as well as personally for 35 years so I'll use that: äpplehuset. The apple house. Det gröna äpplehuset. The green apple house. Just as an example and I hope I got the right ending on grön for the definite article case). Link to comment
cteno4 Posted Tuesday at 07:30 PM Author Share Posted Tuesday at 07:30 PM If the tram crashed into one of our local Apple stores it would have been a high death toll as usually crammed with customers (worse than most of the local coffee houses) even in a weekday afternoon. The resulting riot afterwards of folks not getting their appointments and new iPhones would have had the poor driver probably tarred and feathered! 😜 jeff Link to comment
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