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[Modellbahn JP]

JNR Series 485-3 EMU Collection Part 2

 

Exp."Shirasagi" at Omimagaoka in 1976

 

Exp."Shirasagi" at Nagoya in 1976

 

Exp."Kaetsu" at Maibara in 1976

Edited October 27, 2021 by Modellbahn JP

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR Series 183 EMU Exp."Amagi" and 113 EMU Yokosuka line in 1979

(I forgot where I took the photo)

Edited October 27, 2021 by Modellbahn JP

[Modellbahn JP]

Searching where I took this, it's Atami station.

Yokosuka livery of Series 113 EMU run on Ito line between late 1960s to 1982.

 

On 10/24/2021 at 9:24 PM, Modellbahn JP said:

JNR Series 183 EMU Exp."Amagi" and 113 EMU Yokosuka line in 1979

(I forgot where I took the photo)

 

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR Series 20 & 35 DMU

 

At Shimonoseki in 1979

 

At Tsuge in 1976

Edited October 27, 2021 by Modellbahn JP

[Modellbahn JP]

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Twilight Express "Mizukaze" at Osaka Station

I took a photo yesterday!

 

[The Birmingham train spotter]

What a remarkable engine,I've enjoyed seeing these on YouTube! Great photo

[JR East]

Very nice picture. I don't know where the legs of the driver are.

 

JM

Edited October 31, 2021 by JR East
typo

[The Birmingham train spotter]

If my memory serves me correct,the driver has a raised cab like on the romance car and he's feet are covered up

[Kamome]

14 hours ago, JR East said:

I don't know where the legs of the driver are.

Perhaps they're submersed in a small water tank while small fish pick the dead skin from his feet. Certainly a nice centrepiece while you're sipping cocktails in the lounge.

Alternatively, perhaps JR West do to their drivers what I do to my HO drivers when I put them in the cabs of my model locos. 

[railsquid]

Looks like double amputation is not a requirement:

 

https://travel.watch.impress.co.jp/img/trw/docs/1169/563/html/079_o.jpg.html

 

 

 

 

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR 183 EMU Exp."Hibari# at Ueno station in 1979

 

[Modellbahn JP]

Kobe city subway Class 1000 EMU at Myodani in 1977

 

 

I've run out of new images so I'll upload when convert to data.

[JR East]

the last one is really nice

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR Series 151 EMU Exp. "Tsubame" at Osaka Station in 1961 or 62

 

[Modellbahn JP]

Teito Rapid Transit Authority Class 500 on Marunouchi Line and JNR Series 103 EMU on Chuo Line at Ochanomizu station in 1976

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Modellbahn JP

[railsquid]

Ι think that's a 101 series KuMoHa 💡

[Modellbahn JP]

@railsquid

Sorry for my mistake.

You're right!

[200系]

Hold on a second, I think @Modellbahn JP was correct the first time around, I think we are looking at a KuMoHa 103 and not a KuMoHa 101.

 

First of all the layout of the underfloor equipment, from what I can see, confirms to the what could be found under the M (MoHa 103) and Mc (KuMoHa 103) cars for the 103 series, with the main circuit breaker boxes clearly visible (the equipment under the 2nd door) in front of the main resistors.

 

One of the key differences between the 101 series and the 103 series was the traction installation, with the original concept behind the 101 series, an all electric high performance car (cardan drive, in this case the hollow shaft parallel cardan drive system, which became the system of choice for the new-performance type series, and later) having proven to be too costly, both in terms of production (building electric cars is of course more expensive than trailer cars) and energy consumption. With the MT ratio (motor to trailer) having been reduced for the 101 series as delivered from 1:1 to 2:3, it soon became clear that both the MT46 type traction motors and the CS12A type main controller weren't really suited for the short distance between stations on commuter services, and as a result they had issues with cooling the traction motors and main controller/resistors. As such the concept was revised for a general, new performance type (cardan drive and combined air/rheostatic braking, but without the high acceleration/deceleration performance of a high performance type (think Kintetsu Rabbit Car, and Hanshin Jetcar)) commuter car, which became the 103 series.

As such for the 103 series, new traction motors were developed, MT55, and the later MT55A type, which are of course not visible in the picture above, but what is visible is the new main controller, the CS20 type main controller, which beyond the technical differences is a bit bulkier than the CS12A type used on the 101 series, this is the first clue that this likely a 103 series (the main controller/resistors can be found between (under) the second and third passenger doors). Related to this, the main circuit breaker boxes are another clue, the 101 series had a single box, recognizable by the 3 row wide ventilation inlets, while the 103 series used two of these boxes (so 6 rows in total) as can be seen under the second passenger door in Mr. Modelbahn JP's picture.

 

Second, there's a ventilation roster above the door pocket window near the drivers cab, this port gave access to the ventilation duct for the blower which cools the resistors. This port can only be found on the 103 series (MoHa 102, MoHa 103 and KuMoHa 103 type cars) and is absent on the 101 series.

 

 

Third the presence of an AU75 type air conditioning unit could also point to this being a 103 series. While the 101 series on the Chūō line would receive air conditioning starting in 1976, this would mainly include the later batches of cars (as far as I could find), and though the car number is, unfortunately, unreadable in the picture, it looks to be a two digit number, which would have indicated an early batch KuMoHa 101 type (1957~1961) and not a late type car, which wouldn't really make sense, not in the last place because, according to the information I could find, the only KuMoHa 101 type cars still in service on the Chūō Rapid line were late production cars, with KuMoHa 101-163 being the lowest number.

 

On the other hand for the 103 series it would make sense, as:

 

A) the 103 series took priority in terms of the installation of air conditioning

B) the early 103 series cars weren't yet scheduled to be retired, while the (early) 101 series cars were to be retired in just a couple of years (the bulk of the 101 series were retired between 1979 and 1984), making the investment not all that worthwhile

C) Among the 103 series in service on the Chūō Rapid line, there were actually a number of formations using a KuMoHa 103 type car (the "standard" 10 car formation-> (1) KuHa 103 - (2) MoHa 102 - (3) MoHa 103 - (4) SaHa 103 - (5) MoHa 102 - (6) MoHa 103 - (7) SaHa 103 - (8) MoHa 102 - (9) MoHa 103 - (10) KuHa 103, wouldn't really become a thing until around 1970, with the production of KuMoHa 103 cars ending slightly before this in 1968).

 

A good look at a late production KuMoHa 101 type car, KuMoHa 101-195 in this case, compare the underfloor layout with the car shown in the picture Mr. Modelbahn JP shared. Also note the absence of any ventilation ports above the door pocket windows fore and aft:

https://blog.goo.ne.jp/yasuo_ssi/e/d080523ed3a6ccb77067f4cd0e798b0d

 

A detailed look at KuMoHa 103-56 in 1978, note the differences between the underfloor equipment on this car vs KuMoHa 101-195 as shown above, the ventilation port is also clearly visible:

http://kokuden.net/mc103/sub,htm/sub103-Mc.htm/sub103Mc51-100/sub103-Mc56/sub103-Mc56.htm

 

101 series cars on the Chūō Rapid in 1974 and 1976, with additional information on the cars in service in both 1974 and 1976 (B767-281's blog is a treasure trove for information like this, and I would highly recommend it to anyone enjoying this thread as well as the site I linked to in the section above):

http://b767-281.cocolog-nifty.com/blog/2014/02/1013-c76d.html

 

 

So that's why I think this was indeed a 103 series as originally stated, though this is of course only my own opinion. Perhaps it is a bit on the overly detailed side, though nothing new in that case I guess a 103 series nerd is going to geek out as a 103 series nerd I guess?🤷‍♂️

 

 

Now on the other hand, the  Eidan 300 type car pictured, is actually a 500 type car, and not a 300 type car (at least, the lead car is a 500 type, the second car does appear to be a 300 type). The rounded cab windows, as opposed to the squared windows on the 300 and 400 type cars identify the leading car as a 500 type, while the stepped roof on the second car identifies it as a 300 type car (the 400 types had a turtle roof, similar to the design used on the 500 type afterwards). Which isn't really all that surprising as the 300, 400 and 500 type formations, had been unified and fixed into 6 car formations at around 1968 (e.g. they were to be used as fixed formations after this point, prior to this they could be combined as single cars (300 and 400 type) or paired (500 type)), with the 500 type cars being used as end cars, they had full width cabs on one end of the car since they were built which made them ideal for this role as opposed to the half cabs (on either end of the car) on the 300 and 400 type cars, while the 300 and 400 type cars were to be used as intermediate cars (with a number of early 500 type cars). As such, by 1976 when all 300/400 and 500 type cars had been running in fixed formations for a while, the only end cars that could be found on these formations would've been (late type) 500 type cars.

 

Now these days the Eidan 300/400/500 and 900 type (intermediate) cars are generally grouped under the 500 type designation, so it's all a bit academic, especially as the topic (in my opinion) should be focused on the fantastic images being shared here, but I hope I was able to add some additional information to those who might be interested.

 

On a side note, Eidan 656 was actually one of the cars sold to the Buenos Aires Subway after being retired in 1996.

 

 

[railsquid]

Oooh, you are most certainly right, my apologies to @Modellbahn JP.

[Kiha66]

Really interesting writeup 200, thank you for the lesson!  I certainly learned a lot.

 

On 10/27/2021 at 4:53 AM, Modellbahn JP said:

JNR Series 20 & 35 DMU

 

At Shimonoseki in 1979

 

I love this 20 series photo, it really captures the feeling of rural JNR service.  I need to run mine more often!

[Modellbahn JP]

I've completed to digitalize photos!

 

JNR Series 153 and 103 EMU at Oimachi in 1976

 

JNR Series 153 EMU Exp, "Tokai" at Hodogaya in 1976

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR EF58 Electric Locomotive at Oimachi in 1976

[Modellbahn JP]

JNR Series 113 EMU Yokosuka line at Oimachi in 1976

 

JNR Series 113 EMU Yokosuka line at Hodogayai in 1976

[JR East]

This JNR Series 113 EMU Yokosuka line at Hodogayai in 1976 photo is really great. 

 

JM

[Modellbahn JP]

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DB BR103 Electric Locomotive "TEE Rheingold" at Meinz in 1986