Just a curiosity about Kato ED75

[AlexTakeo]

Hi! I have a serious curiosity about Kato's ED75: Can it run on R150 or even R117? Or maybe would be a better choice using Tomix's ED5010 (or similar) to run on tight curves? I have a SERIOUS issue about space and size of my layouts (even temporary - my house is small) and I developed a gung ho for small trains and smallest layouts (portability? why not?).

 

Obs: My keyboard don't have japanese characters and of course I don't speak and read japanese characters. Also, my knowledge about japanese railways is smaller than yours, even I researching - I'm a novice in this aspect. Sorry if sometimes I bother with obvious questions.

[Kamome]

Depending on what you want to model but I’d say locos like the ED50 look more appropriate navigating around tight bends. It comes down to personal preference but I’m a bit of a stickler for having things look kind of right. Having blue train carriages or a shinkansen coming around a very tight bend doesn’t look very nice IMO.

If you’re limited for space perhaps think about what aspect you could model. A small Iida line scene in the mountains with short freight and passenger services for example. Tight corners could be hidden inside mountains so viewers don’t see the unrealistic parts to the plan. 
Or lines like the Enoden whereby tram like trains emerge from between narrow buildings or going along narrow streets. 

 I might also consider some of the Narrow Gauge Tomytec options. These come as “display models” but you can purchase motor units and metal wheels for them. They are in 1:80 scale rather than 1:150. They have recently introduced electric cars and a lot of the Japanese modellers make very detailed, small dioramas that train can run through. They navigate very tight corners and look appropriate doing so. 
https://www.tomytec.co.jp/diocolle/lineup/tetsudou/narrow80_001.html

[bill937ca]

Another choice is the Kato 14-504-1 3-car set. It is a small steeple cab that does  R150   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10610198

 

Also there are a couple of small steamers.

 

C12 does R150    https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10315912

C11 does R216   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10427001

C56 does R183   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10188961

 

R117 would be limited to trams.

Edited August 5, 2020 by bill937ca

[railsquid]

Things going round Tomix 103mm curves:

 

 

See video description for details.

[bill937ca]

Another option is B-Train shorty locos. You have to buy a separate power unit.      https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/list/577/0/1

Minimum radius R117

 

ED79 (ED 75)   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10376586

ED81   https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10407041

ED65-500  https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10407035

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2020 by bill937ca

[AlexTakeo]

Thanks everyone, but I dont care much about realism in curves, but if locomotive can negotiate r150 at least. I know the C56 can do, and ED5010 is capable, but i still in doubt about Ed75. I will use small freight cars with 2 axles and OHANI31 for passengers. (As everyone can see, my rolling storck is quite short in lenght). I saw some videos quite different with C56 from Microace on R117(!!!!!) and maybe an ED75 on r150, but I dont have experience with these models.

Actually, I'm quite novice in the hobby.

Regards!

[Kamome]

In that case, this Tomix page will give you information on which stock will navigate their mini curves and Super mini curves. 
 

Sadly, Kato doesn’t do this but usually gives minimum radius info on each models page.

 

https://www.tomytec.co.jp/tomix/products/smc-mc-list.html

[AlexTakeo]

Thanks!!!

[Morcs]

Tomix ED79 and ED75 run perfect on r150