Container Car Question

[Jimbo]

I've seen tank cars ,, container cars,,   but what's these container cars with the small tanks in a frame work??   what are they used for ?? specialty chemical's  ??   Thanks  

Edited January 22, 2020 by disturbman
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[Sheffie]

It’s anything that they want to ship using container shipping, which makes loading quicker (andcheaper). Lots of the containers belong to Japan Oil Transport (?) but I don’t know what they contain exactly. I’ll defer to other experts on the subject. 

[Jimbo]

Just wondering   all I could find out was LNG   or acid  for mining use?? 

[bikkuri bahn]

They are a very diverse group of containers (UT series) for transporting chemicals. 12ft and 20ft versions.  This website has numerous pictures of them:

http://butsuryu.web.fc2.com/shiyu-container_tank01.html

[Jimbo]

thanks  wish I could read japanese

[katoftw]

Google translate can read japanese for you.

[Kiha66]

Going off what kato said, if you put the URL into google translate it will often be able to generate a page translated into your preferred language.  If you use the chrome web browser it will often even do this automatically.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbutsuryu.web.fc2.com%2Fshiyu-container_tank01.html

[Cat]

26 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

thanks  wish I could read japanese

I've recently pulled out my Japanese Kana From Zero workbook to brush up on my hiragana and katakana again (I've gotten a little rusty).  I found this to be a super book for learning from.  Even just recognising the kana is a big help. 

Current goal is to see if I can get my reading skills up above my current level of being able to read the SFX in manga.
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[Das Steinkopf]

4 hours ago, bikkuri bahn said:

They are a very diverse group of containers (UT series) for transporting chemicals. 12ft and 20ft versions.  This website has numerous pictures of them:

http://butsuryu.web.fc2.com/shiyu-container_tank01.html

 

Thanks a lot for that link, I'm glad that I'm not the only one that goes trawling for info on containers and freight stock, we really need a dedicated reference section where we can easily access the information that we have sourced over the years.

[cteno4]

7 hours ago, bikkuri bahn said:

They are a very diverse group of containers (UT series) for transporting chemicals. 12ft and 20ft versions.  This website has numerous pictures of them:

http://butsuryu.web.fc2.com/shiyu-container_tank01.html

excellent! Thanks bikkur Hahn!

 

jeff

[ben_issacs]

Folks, 

LPG and LNG (Liquefied petrol and natural gas) tanks are generally with more domed ends, they are designed for higher pressures than the usual petrol and oil tanks, and have simpler fittings on top.

I think that MicroAce make a grey, long LPG tank wagon, not sure about models  of LPG NPG containers.

Regards, 

Bill, 

Melbourne. 

[Jimbo]

This is great info!! an Thanks for the translation too!! I was thinking of including a container tank car with my container train, I was checking e bay an the prices are just to crazy for me, (from a high of 243 bucks to 45 bucks an twenty five shipping)  Thanks again for all the input

[Sheffie]

I think that these ones may be the best value / quality (I’ve seen both blue and green varieties available at different times). Currently out of stock, but they come and go, so it’s worth being patient. It seems like a good container collection takes a while to accumulate. There’s one silver lining though: a Koki car still looks good with empty space on it. 

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10524667

Edited January 20, 2020 by Sheffie

[Jimbo]

4 minutes ago, Sheffie said:

I think that these ones may be the best value / quality (I’ve seen both blue and green varieties available at different times). Currently out of stock, but they come and go, so it’s worth being patient. It seems like a good container collection takes a while to accumulate. 

 

https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10524667

was just in their site,, seems what i was interested in was sold out,,

[Cat]

20 minutes ago, Jimbo said:

was just in their site,, seems what i was interested in was sold out,,

 

If you're brave, this is a job for Yahoo Japan Auction! 

I'm in the process of completing my first YJA shopping spree.  There had been a promotion through Buyee that just ended that waved the ¥300 Buyee fee for each purchase, so that was a good time to go on a spree of buying up a bunch of low priced items.  (I just saved ¥3300 this weekend!)  Once I signed up for Buyee, I went to YJA through the Buyee portal, and my bids and buyout choices through the Buyee system.
 
Search terms work much better in Japanese than in English.  A trick I quickly figured out was to search for items on 1999, flip from the English to the Japanese language page to copy the name, then go to the Buyee/YJA page and paste in the name in the search box of the [Yahoo! JAPAN Auction ＞ Toys & Games ＞ Model Trains ＞ N Gauge] category.
 
So, following your link of: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/m/10524667 shows the item name in English.

Then removing "/eng" from that url to go to https://www.1999.co.jp/m/10524667 shows it in Japanese.

Copy the name in Japanese.

You can paste it into Google Translate if you want to double-check that you got the portion of the name that will be helpful in a search.

Copying "ISOタンクコンテナ" from 1999 and pasting it in at YHA yields these search results:
https://buyee.jp/item/search/query/ISOタンクコンテナ/category/2084259591?sort=cbids&order=a&translationType=1

Keep a hand on your wallet though.
~ , ^

[ben_issacs]

Folks,

Earlier on there were the little JNR 5 tonne tank containers, the same general size as the standard five tonne box containers.

These appeared in light green, buff and blue and white, and possibly other colours..

Not sure what their particular loadings were, blue and white maybe milk.

Regards, 

Bill,

Melbourne.

[bikkuri bahn]

18 hours ago, ben_issacs said:

Folks, 

LPG and LNG (Liquefied petrol and natural gas) tanks are generally with more domed ends, they are designed for higher pressures than the usual petrol and oil tanks, and have simpler fittings on top.

I think that MicroAce make a grey, long LPG tank wagon, not sure about models  of LPG NPG containers.

Regards, 

Bill, 

Melbourne. 

LP gas is no longer carried by rail, the mode used is by ship to harbor terminals where the material is offloaded and then shipped by truck to end users.  In JNR times and the early JR Freight era there was rail transport, using the taki 25000 series (retired in 2006).

[lighthouse]

8 hours ago, bikkuri bahn said:

LP gas is no longer carried by rail, the mode used is by ship to harbor terminals where the material is offloaded and then shipped by truck to end users.  In JNR times and the early JR Freight era there was rail transport, using the taki 25000 series (retired in 2006).

 

This information is not entirely correct. On Hokkaido, LPG / LNG is still transported in tank containers on wagons. So far I have only seen these tank containers on Youtube in Shin-Fuji (Kushiro) and in the mountains on the Sekisho & Nemuro line between Owiake and Kushiro. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOA-eAcAt-U

[Cat]

While googling around for photos of the Kashima Rinkai Railway, I just happened to come across this photo from 2008, not sure what is loaded in the tanks:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ōarai_Kashima_Line#/media/File:Kashirin_KRD5.JPG

 

The KRT services several container depots.

[Jimbo]

thanks  Cat 

[ben_issacs]

Folks, 

Unfortunately, the Kashima Rinkai freight train shot doesn't give a good view of the container tanks, apart from the fact that they are silver in colour, which doesn't help much in re their contents.The light, silver colour might be to reflect heat, which could mean that they are carrying a volatile liquid, petrol or similar. 

With regard to LPG tanks on rail, for a modelling point of view, this just depends on what period of time (if any) one is modelling..

Regards,

Bill, 

Melbourne.

 

[nah00]

On 1/19/2020 at 9:21 PM, Kiha66 said:

Going off what kato said, if you put the URL into google translate it will often be able to generate a page translated into your preferred language.  If you use the chrome web browser it will often even do this automatically.

https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=ja&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fbutsuryu.web.fc2.com%2Fshiyu-container_tank01.html

 

Ooooo so many containers that I don't have yet and still have yet to be made......

[ben_issacs]

Folks, 

Would the auto translating system really help to determine what the tank cars actually carry.

This info. is probably somewhere on the tank body, but the auto. trans, doesn't translate this.

Some tank cars have an inverted yellow triangle marking on the tank body, which I think does indicate the tank contents, possibility flammability, but I'm not sure of this.

Regards, 

Bill,

Melbourne.