Krackel Hopper Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 hey hey, I'm looking at the dimensions of my Greenmax 45 (road crossing kit). The width of the crossing is a very narrow 35mm. Pictures I have seen show this as a 2 lane (1 either direction) crossing. I just can't quite see how that would work. I do not have any cars yet to test.. but putting a tomytec bus on the crossing, it takes up well over half the crossing. Also, comparing the Greenmax kit along with tomytec and noch roads (which are 40mm).. I've read the thread about town roads Shashinka started, where he was worried about the 40mm of the tomytec roads being too narrow.. Does anyone know of a good road system that would be more of a "main street" you would see buses and semi-trucks on? Or have a rough idea of the width a road like this would need? Even though I want/need a main drag that is wide enough for buses.. I would prefer to keep it to 2 lanes of traffic.. a 4 lane road would take up most of the with of my 24" layout space.. I considered doubling up my greenmax crossing ramps.. but that would have me at a whopping 70mm crossing, which seems huge. From looking at my buses/tractor trailers, it seems like 50mm would be ideal.. but I really don't know.. Thanks in advance! Jon Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 The Greenmax crossing is probably meant to model something like this which is very common in Tokyo and Osaka. Link to comment
inobu Posted October 24, 2009 Share Posted October 24, 2009 In America that tone would mean hurry up a train is coming! The biker would have stood up on the bike and try to beat the crossing bar. As we all know, here, Red mean you can't go, Yellow mean accelerate and Green mean take your time so the guy behind you misses the light. Inobu Link to comment
Hezekiah Strawbody Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 The Greenmax crossing is probably meant to model something like this which is very common in Tokyo and Osaka. It looks like both of those are one-way streets, so will obviously be narrower than a 'normal' road. However most suburban streets are narrower in Japan than other places, even if they are two-way traffic, you may not be able to pass another vehicle without pulling over to the side (and also trying to avoid the power poles on the sides of the roads) Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 27, 2009 Share Posted October 27, 2009 It looks like both of those are one-way streets, so will obviously be narrower than a 'normal' road. However most suburban streets are narrower in Japan than other places, even if they are two-way traffic, you may not be able to pass another vehicle without pulling over to the side (and also trying to avoid the power poles on the sides of the roads) True. The few times I've been in a car through these roads, most drivers would plow through these streets at break-neck speeds. I've grown up in narrow streets in the Netherlands, but there speeds are much lower. However, Japanese tend to slow down when they pass or overtake a pedestrian or another vehicle. Others just sound their horn and speed through blind corners. On the other hand, I've seen some remarkable parking skills there. For example my host dad managed to park his huge Toyota Crown into a space that I'd reserve for a Civic or another hatchback... Also, this crossing is a better example I think: Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 are the crossings meant to be used in a rural or a city setting? Link to comment
Krackel Hopper Posted October 28, 2009 Author Share Posted October 28, 2009 are the crossings meant to be used in a rural or a city setting? The crossings are going to be used in a city/suburban scene. I still haven't decided on the road system yet. So these narrow crossings may work just fine. I know tomytec makes a little crossing kit that I believe is a little wider (40mm?) that I may use for more of a major road through the layout.. Link to comment
Guest ___ Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 I use the Tomytec crossings with a Noch roadway and they fit exactly. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 28, 2009 Share Posted October 28, 2009 More info on Tokyo streets. Streets in Japan have no names and there are no street addresses. But there are block numbers and addresses around the block. These blog entries are from an American professor who has lived in Japan for over 15 years. http://blogd.com/wp/index.php/archives/789 http://blogd.com/wp/index.php/archives/2536 http://blogd.com/wp/index.php/archives/1133 Here's some more video of Tokyo streets. I've read the normal side street in Tokyo is 4m wide. There are some four lane streets and some wider streets but these are less common. Around JR Okubo Station. Around Ikegami Station Around Gotanda Gotanda Station has the JR Yamanote line running under the Tokyu Ikegami line terminating in an elevated terminal with an adjacent river. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gotanda_Station http://wikimapia.org/11665/Gotanda-Station-JR-Yamanote-Line-Tokyu-Ikehami-Line-Toei-Subway-Asakusa-Line Around Otsuka Station Around Akihabara Station Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 Here is a good movie that shows passing cars on a narrow street in the eighties. A very careful and precise operation. Oh yeah, don't mind the low-riding-body-kit-scraping-V.I.P.-styled-Bosozoku car... Link to comment
inobu Posted October 29, 2009 Share Posted October 29, 2009 THAT WAS FUNNY!!!!!!! Far beyond Low Rider more so No Rider. Inobu Link to comment
bill937ca Posted October 31, 2009 Share Posted October 31, 2009 Here's another Sakura House tour showing Setagaya ward. Link to comment
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