gavino200 Posted November 28, 2018 Share Posted November 28, 2018 (edited) I've been itching to try scratchbuilding something for a while now. I'm not quite ready to start as I still have a bunch of kit structures left to build. But I want to plan ahead a bit and start acquiring some of the tools and resources I'll need. I'm going to use this thread to gather together, sources for tools, materials, videos, plans etc. I'll start with a few resources I already have/know of and will add more as I learn of them. Please add suggestions and I'll add them to the list. Materials Styrene I have a bunch of different thicknesses that I buy directly from Evergreen https://evergreenscalemodels.com/ Various pre-made styrene shapes and sheets https://plastruct.com/ Styrene with specific finishes from Kobaro https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10529487 Styrene Roof Tile, Other Textures Greenmax: http://www.greenmax.co.jp/Product/colorstructure/GM_colorstructure_201209.htm Example on Hobby Search, Greenmax 2508 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10203947 Greenmax 2512: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10207405 Wood Midwest scale lumber https://midwestproducts.com/collections/hobbyists Northeastern Scale Lumber http://www.northeasternscalelumber.com/ http://www.kapplerusa.com/y2k/p-value.htm Metal tubing and rods http://www.ksmetals.com/ Various metal parts in all sorts of shapes and sizes https://www.eggs.jp/newec/ Metal tubes, mesh, etc. https://www.hobby-wave.com/products-cat/material/ Miscellaneous Materials Various textures and finishes, mirror, etc. http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/item/tool/tf/ Gravel Texture Sheets - Roofs, Walks, etc. Kato 24-016: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10043273 Computer Software Inkscape (free) Used by Maihama Eki https://inkscape.org/ MS Paint I wouldn't have thought of this but rogerfarnworth has achieved some outstanding results with it. Tools Clamps small quick release clamps https://www.homedepot.com/p/DEWALT-Small-Trigger-Clamp-2-Pack-DWHT83148/204390864 Small clamps from Harbor Freight https://www.harborfreight.com/micro-spring-clamp-set-6-pc-69375.html Right angle clamps https://www.micromark.com/Original-Right-Clamp Cutting, Sawing, Drilling Olfa Plastic Laminate Cutter (large and small) Large https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003UHUZ5U/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1 Small https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/yamakishi/item/30785892/ "Chop-it" https://www.micromark.com/Chop-It "Duplicate it" https://www.micromark.com/Duplicate-It Miter box and saw https://www.micromark.com/Miter-Box-and-Saw-Set Exacto knife with 11 blade Jeweler's saw Punch set https://www.micromark.com/Micro-Punch-Set Pin vise and micro drill bit set Adhesives For styrene: Tamiya Extra Thin Cement Testors liquid cement for plastic models Humbrol poly cement For less styrene softening and less fogging of clear parts (see Marknewton post below) Tamiya Limonene Cement https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002TZ6K4Y/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A2FXJKY8KT1K5&psc=1 General purpose E6000 Small delicate parts CA - various viscosities Instruction and ideas Instruction videos Edited May 30, 2019 by gavino200 2 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 Here is an easy styrene project that RMM published on the introduction of Evergreen Styrene in Japan. http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/2006/09/post_109.html You don't need a lot of tools. Cutting pad Steel ruler (short and long) https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10280932 Xacto knifes Razor saw Basic file set Sprue cutter Tweezers Pin Vise Don't forget HS has a Hobby Tool section. https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/paint/ Basic Tool Set https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10001619 1 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) 20 minutes ago, bill937ca said: Here is an easy styrene project that RMM published on the introduction of Evergreen Styrene in Japan. http://rail.hobidas.com/blog/rmm/archives/2006/09/post_109.html Photos of this simple project. Built from .040 styrene to Japanese plans. Showing the raw structure, base and roof. It will look fine along side some Tomytec houses. Edited November 29, 2018 by bill937ca 2 1 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted November 29, 2018 Author Share Posted November 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, bill937ca said: Photos of this simple project. Nice work Billy. What glue do you use? Do you use right angle clamps or are the right angle strips enough to get everything lined up? Link to comment
bill937ca Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 34 minutes ago, gavino200 said: What glue do you use? Do you use right angle clamps or are the right angle strips enough to get everything lined up? I use Humbrol Poly Cement. The right angle strips were to line up the walls and provide a surface for gluing. 1 Link to comment
marknewton Posted November 29, 2018 Share Posted November 29, 2018 (edited) Best method for cutting styrene sheet neatly and accurately is to score and snap. Olfa make two versions of their “P cutter” - large and small. I use both, and I swear by them.. https://olfa.com/professional/product/plastic-laminate-cutter-pc-l/ https://global.rakuten.com/en/store/yamakishi/item/30785892/ To clean up the edges of styrene sheet after cutting I use some abrasive blocks and sticks I made by gluing different grades of wet & dry carbide paper to lengths of stripwood or wooden clothes pegs. I also use nail buffing tools stolen borrowed from my wife to clean up edges and glued joins. The nail boards are flexible so they can used to sand seams or joins on a curved surface. For gluing thin styrene sheet or section without distortion or excess softening I use Tamiya Limonene cement. It’s very effective when gluing transparent parts as it’s less aggressive than other solvents and doesn’t cause crazing or fogging. I also use it to laminate paper overlays to styrene when I need subtle surface detail or relief. http://www.tamiya.com/english/products/87113limonene_cement/index.htm If I’m laminating styrene sheet together for overlays or similar I prefer to use double-sided tape as an adhesive rather than solvent glues, as it minimises the risk of warping or distortion. All the best, Mark. Edited November 29, 2018 by marknewton 1 2 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted November 30, 2018 Author Share Posted November 30, 2018 YouTube videos - Place holder Link to comment
gavino200 Posted December 9, 2018 Author Share Posted December 9, 2018 (edited) Great examples of Japanese scratchbuilds from Dabsan in this JNS thread. Mostly it's a 'show and tell' with little discussion of technique. However on the fourth page there's a time lapse sequence of pictures showing how one structure was made. Amazing scratchbuild example from Maihama Eki with description of technique and photo sequence. Adding this here for now - an old thread with lots of good tips form some very accomplished modelers Edited January 20, 2019 by gavino200 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 An interesting video. It's in German but you can get the gist by watching. It's about the Vollmer company just before it closed. From 4:55 to 6:30 you can see the process of scratchbuilding the first prototype of a model building. It starts with photos and measurement. Then scale calculations. Next a model is made out of card and paper. After that a plastic model is made. It looks (and sounds) like the modeler actually carves the surface details directly onto the smooth plastic surface. It's brilliant but it also looks relatively doable with a LOT of practice. 2 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I wonder how long until all cad and just some 3D printing for prototypes, then direct to die production... jeff Link to comment
gavino200 Posted December 10, 2018 Author Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, cteno4 said: I wonder how long until all cad and just some 3D printing for prototypes, then direct to die production... jeff I'm guessing maybe a few years ago? Link to comment
cteno4 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Whoops didn’t open in YouTube to see posted in 2014! You are probably right... jeff 1 Link to comment
rogerfarnworth Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Hi all I appreciate that modelling UK N Gauge is not the same as Japanese N. My experience of scratch-building is almost entirely in the use of card rather than styrene. Is using card a common practice in Japanese N? I draw most of my models in 'Paint' which is utterly basic but it seems to produce results. 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 A lot of the basics are the same really. Yep card stock printed structure and vehicle models are big in japan. Also a number of companies in the last few years doing really nice laser cut and etched chipboard (high resin cardstock) structure kits that have really nice tab and rabit joint systems for assembly. Sankei is the big one in this biz. jeff 1 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, rogerfarnworth said: Hi all I appreciate that modelling UK N Gauge is not the same as Japanese N. My experience of scratch-building is almost entirely in the use of card rather than styrene. Is using card a common practice in Japanese N? I draw most of my models in 'Paint' which is utterly basic but it seems to produce results. Thanks for commenting. I'd love to see some of your creations. Any "in production" photos would be great too, and maybe a super short explanation of your process. Don't worry about posting pictures of British buildings. We can learn from craftsmanship in any style. 1 Link to comment
rogerfarnworth Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) I have quite a few on my blog about Hereford. The easiest thing is for me to provide links to the relevant pages. Would that be acceptable? I have started a thread in "Worldwide Models" which covers the modelling I have been doing and the contributions made by my late father-in-law. The thread is entitled "Hereford UK - N Gauge." Edited December 31, 2018 by rogerfarnworth 1 Link to comment
cteno4 Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Roger, the best would probably be to start the thread on a good generic building project in card stock and present it steps here on the forum with text and pictures here to allow discussion here directly and not just solely links to you blogs. While it’s interesting to get links to various references, one of the main parts of the forum is discussion and it’s hard to discuss stuff that’s all contained off the forum as everyone needs to go to the blog, read it all and come back before a remote discussion can happen here. If more content is here on something like this then the discussion will flow much faster and wider and what a forum is good at. cheers jeff Link to comment
gavino200 Posted December 31, 2018 Author Share Posted December 31, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, rogerfarnworth said: I have quite a few on my blog about Hereford. The easiest thing is for me to provide links to the relevant pages. Would that be acceptable? I have started a thread in "Worldwide Models" which covers the modelling I have been doing and the contributions made by my late father-in-law. The thread is entitled "Hereford UK - N Gauge." When I searched for Hereford UK - in N Gauge I found this https://www.modelrailforum.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=50954 . It's the same post on a different forum. Tut tut tut. I'm so offended you just did a cut/paste for us. What are we? Chopped liver? (joking, that's totally fine). Is this the direct link to your blog? https://rogerfarnworth.com/2013/12/25/herefordshire-railways/ I'm going to link here to your ''Worldwide Models" post as it's a great description of the process of taking a model from conception to completion. It's really spectacular work. A couple of questions, if you would. 1. Can you comment on some of your favorite materials for cardstock scratchbuilding? I'll add them to the list in the first post of this thread as a reference. And if you can list some good online suppliers that would also be great. Card, glue, paper, software, printers etc? 2. Can you tell me more about the process of making the scale plans. Am I correct in understanding that this was all done in MS paint? Personally, I love 'paint' and still use it even though Microsoft keep trying to hide it in their new operating systems. Still I'm surprised that you can do something this complex with the program. Any pointers? 3. Regarding the blackened windows. Did you attempt to cut out the window panes and place clear plastic behind it? What problems did you encounter when you tried that. 4. Lastly, are you interested in doing some Japanese n scale yourself? Edited December 31, 2018 by gavino200 Link to comment
rogerfarnworth Posted January 1, 2019 Share Posted January 1, 2019 Hi Gavin Apologies if I gave offended in any way. That was not my intention. I am involved on other forums and all have different ways of doing things. I need to fit in here. I am a little reluctant to provide links now, but the link to my blog is: https://rogerfarnworth.com and the relevant part relating to my modelling is: https://rogerfarnworth.com/category/railways-blog/model-railway/ I have modelled many of the station structures myself following David's work. I have used very basic materials. .... Standard 160g card and 80g paper sourced as cheaply as practical. When I see heavier duty card advertised in A4 sheets, I purchase some. Much of the supporting structure uses old card such as the heavy sheet which can be found at the back of a pad of writing paper or inside some packaging. I have built a coaling stage ... which was the first I built using these techniques. Then two station signal boxes, half of the island platform buildings (I have still to complete the remainder), a parcels office, the station footbridge, the small station master's house. I have started but not yet had time to proceed with part of Hereford MPD's buildings. Yes all of the work was done in MSPaint. I found scaling the work difficult band have in the end cheated by using one of David's files as a starting template. Often, I have printed direct to card using my basic all in one Canon printer ( I always buy one which uses 5 cartridges rather than 2 cartridges as the compatible cartridges are so much cheaper). There are a number of different images on my blog of the different pages I created to model from. The hardest part of the process in each case was cutting out the different layers of card. This was particularly the case for the footbridge. Cutting the card round the windows required a steady hand but the windows themselves were printed onto acetate using one of the drawings for a template and were glued into the model as a layer in the construction. I have mentioned to Jeff that my interest has initially been to explore what full scale narrow gauge exists in Japan and to find out more about it. I do have a number of N Gauge Japanese chassis sitting in my parts box waiting for something. I hope this is all valuable stuff. I am away from home at the moment so cannot provide any more pictures than are already accessible on the blog. Kind regards Roger Link to comment
gavino200 Posted January 1, 2019 Author Share Posted January 1, 2019 (edited) On 1/1/2019 at 4:30 AM, rogerfarnworth said: Hi Gavin Apologies if I gave offended in any way. That was not my intention. I am involved on other forums and all have different ways of doing things. I need to fit in here. Not at all. I was joking. Cut/paste is exactly what I would do myself. We are honored to have such a talented modeler on the forum. You are more than welcome here Thank you for such a detailed response. I am fascinated by your work. It’s a true inspiration. Edited January 6, 2019 by gavino200 Link to comment
rogerfarnworth Posted January 6, 2019 Share Posted January 6, 2019 Later pictures of the developing layout with the signal box in place. 1 Link to comment
maihama eki Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Hi Gavin, Looking around my work area - a few materials additions to your list above: Styrene and Acrylic Shapes, etc. Plastruct: https://plastruct.com/ Metal Rods, Tubes, Sheets, Mesh, etc. in Copper, Aluminum, Brass, Stainless Steel, and Others Eggs (Available in Japan at Tokyo Hands): https://www.eggs.jp/newec/ Metal Tubes, Mesh, etc. Wave Corporation (Japan) https://www.hobby-wave.com/products-cat/material/ Wood, Scale Lumber Northeastern Scale Lumber: http://www.northeasternscalelumber.com/ Various Finish Sheets (Mirror Finish, etc.) Hasegawa: http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/item/tool/tf/ Styrene Roof Tile, Other Textures Greenmax: http://www.greenmax.co.jp/Product/colorstructure/GM_colorstructure_201209.htm Example on Hobby Search, Greenmax 2508 https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10203947 Greenmax 2512: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10207405 Gravel Texture Sheets - Roofs, Walks, etc. Kato 24-016: https://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10043273 1 1 Link to comment
gavino200 Posted January 18, 2019 Author Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 12:12 AM, maihama eki said: Hi Gavin, Looking around my work area - a few materials additions to your list above: Thanks Maihama. I added these resources to the list at the top of the thread. I'm a big fan of your work btw. Link to comment
gavino200 Posted February 13, 2019 Author Share Posted February 13, 2019 Some amazing craftwork in Z scale by @MichiK in this thread. He goes as far as to scratchbuild latticed window frames, and even a z scaled cat. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Gavin some more for the list, metal rods and tubes and other small bits n bobs https://www.ngineering.com/tubing.htm https://www.ngineering.com/other_detail_stuff.htm https://www.ngineering.com/photo_etched_products.htm https://www.ngineering.com/stamped.htm lots of small tools like clamps, knives, cutters, forcepts etc https://widgetsupply.com/ quilting clamps https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2505460.m570.l1313.TR1.TRC0.A0.H0.Xquilting+clamps.TRS0&_nkw=quilting+clamps&_sacat=0 Hair clips (these can be had cheaper and in smaller quantities on local dollar store or ebay - flat+alligator+hair+clip) https://www.amazon.com/CoverYourHair-Double-Prong-Clips-Alligator/dp/B07CCYK3P7/ref=sr_1_17_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1550086806&sr=8-17&keywords=flat+alligator+hair+clips https://www.amazon.com/Adorox-pieces-inches-Single-Alligator/dp/B01K5JWYIQ/ref=sr_1_9_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1550086850&sr=8-9&keywords=flat+alligator+hair+clips jeff 1 Link to comment
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