Cassiopeia couplers?

[Welshbloke]

I'm in the midst of assembling a Tomix Cassiopeia at the moment, which I will eventually want to fit TN couplers to. Only snag is I can't work out what the real thing uses - are they buckeyes throughout or some Shibatas? Tomix give part numbers for both for some reason!

[Suica]

The Shibata couplers are meant for coupling the coaches together. The knuckle couplers go onto the end cars that couple with the loco.

[Edos2300]

Clearly illustrated here :

 

http://itreni.net/jnrkeishikipage/pc/jrpce26.html

 

[gavino200]

29 minutes ago, Edos2300 said:

Clearly illustrated here :

 

http://itreni.net/jnrkeishikipage/pc/jrpce26.html

 

 

What's that funny looking car in the bottom most picture? Google translate calls it a backup "seed" car.

Edited August 2, 2018 by gavino200

[bill937ca]

Power supply car for when power fails.

 

[Welshbloke]

Ah, that explains it, thanks! The photos on Hobbysearch (which look to be from a trade fair) show Shibatas within the set and buckeyes on the outer ends. Wasn't sure whether this was realistic or a case of Tomix fitting the samples out with whatever they could lay hands on.

 

At present I have 92409 and the KaYa 27-500 on order, 92408 will follow shortly. I can run the first two with my ED79 or pair of DD51s until then.

 

The KaYa is a combination generator van and shop, as I understand it. It's used in place of the lounge car which usually runs at that end of the train.

 

One thought, the KaYa must have some sort of universal coupler on the inner end. In that photo it's coupled to a conventional blue sleeper, and I've seen a video of it being moved between a pair of EF81s. Presumably there must be something like the couplers used on KuMoYas, which have both Shibata and buckeye fittings.

Edited August 2, 2018 by Welshbloke
Additional thought!

[Edos2300]

7 hours ago, Welshbloke said:

. In that photo it's coupled to a conventional blue sleeper, and I've seen a video of it being moved between a pair of EF81s. Presumably there must be something like the couplers used on KuMoYas, which have both Shibata and buckeye fittings

 

No, the couplers are the same as for the end observatory cars (Near the end of the page) :

 

http://copperdentalcl4181.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-222.html

 

This is the coupler of the EF81 which receives an adapter in this case, see the video here:

 

http://sp.nicovideo.jp/watch/sm24719822

 

 

Edited August 3, 2018 by Edos2300
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[Edos2300]

By chance I come across these great pictures of the adapter in my Twitter feed right now :

 

 

 

[Welshbloke]

Ah, that might also explain why it was coupled to another coach in the sidings. Judging by those photos fitting the adapter would take some time, which isn't helpful when shunting or recovering a broken train. The other end of the coach will have a standard knuckle making it a lot easier to shuffle the KaYa around.

[Kiha66]

Its actually quite quick to shift, the coupler contains both a knuckle side and a shibata side.  To switch the coupler just has to be rotated about 60 degrees.  It appears to be a similar type used by the EF63 and a few EF64s.

 

on the EF63:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JNR-EF63-Coupling-01.jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:JNR-EF63-Coupling-02.jpg

Edited August 4, 2018 by Kiha66