Climb to Kurama ( eizan Mini layout)

[Bubule]

Hello all !  Thanks Martin ! ☺️

 

So today i have had the Four longitudinal reinforcements  ( 2 on top and 2 on bottom ). A little bit tricky to do, because I need to attach, the .080" by .015" strips with lots of constraint in the 180mm radius curve.

 

After that i have designed the pilars. Here is the plan :

 

 

Here is the first test of building a pillar. My geometry is not perfect for this one (symetrical problem), i will need to build a jig to have better shape and regularity on my next pillars.

But i am happy with the design it really match the prototype. You can also see at the base of the pillar the profile used to built it :

 

 

 

Here are some views with the bridge on the pillar. You can notice the longitudinal reinforcements on the bridge :

 

 

 

To check the volumes, here is a view with a kirara :

 

 

To be continued ...

 

Best regards.

 

Jef

 

 

[Kiha66]

Wow, that looks really nice!  What method are you using to cut the plastic for the piers?

[Bubule]

1 hour ago, Kiha66 said:

Wow, that looks really nice!  What method are you using to cut the plastic for the piers?

 

I'm using the same fret saw than the one for cutting the holes on the deck. It's very precise but you need to sand the surface after the cut to get a smooth surface for glueing.

I aslo use Deluxe Putty to fill the gaps and fine santing stick or paper.

[JR 500系]

Amazing modelling skills! Thanks for sharing! The bridge looks great! May I ask what is the permissible radius on that curve? It looks a little tight with the Kirara...

[Bubule]

3 hours ago, JR 500系 said:

Amazing modelling skills! Thanks for sharing! The bridge looks great! May I ask what is the permissible radius on that curve? It looks a little tight with the Kirara...

 

It is 180 mm radius, the minimum for kirara is 150 mm. I have made some tests, it is working very well, No problem in 2.5% and 180mm radius. The mobo morks also very smoothly.

I am not a fan of thigh raduis, may US layout 475 mm raduis, but i think tigth radius is a marker of the kurama line and was needing this raduis to keep the layout entering in my personal car to go on exibition. 😉

 

I have attached the track on the bridge today. You can see a phot with the kirara : it's OK even to make good photo :

 

 

 

[Ken Ford]

Jef, this is causing me to rethink what I want to do with my idle plans of modeling Kurama for exhibition...

[Claude_Dreyfus]

That bridge certainly looks the part. I particularly like layouts where the railway is part of the landscape, so looking forward to seeing this develop.

[Bubule]

Thanks Claude and Ken !

 

I have totaly cracked and explosed my buget on Ebay ... I have found an auction for a pair of Mobo 101 (NT 87 and NT 88) ... with the little geisha Yuko on it ... what a nice little engines ! So cute ! 😍 I have not saw this model before seeing this offer on ebay, and i have instantly cracked and buy this lovely train. I can't wait to receive it and run with, i am very exited !🤤

 

The real one is awesome !

 

 

And the scale engine look like a great model ! The wait will be long !

 

 

 

Edited June 26, 2018 by Bubule

[JR 500系]

10 minutes ago, Bubule said:

Thanks Claude and Ken !

 

I have totaly cracked and explosed my buget on Ebay ... I have found an auction for a pair of Mobo 101 (NT 87 and NT 88) ... with the little geisha Yuko on it ... what a nice little engines ! 😍 I have not saw this model before seeing this offer on ebay, and i have instantly cracked and buy this lovely train. I can't wait to receive it and run with, i am very exited !🤤

 

The real one is awesome !

 

 

 

Yes it's amazingly cute! You do know that there is a 2nd edition one, right  ?  

 

Also, be sure to check this guy out too if you love cute little painted trams!

 

 

[Bubule]

 

 Hello all.

 

Big job to do now ! ! !  I need to trig all the elevations before building the poles of the bridge to the correct higth.

 

So here is a pair of views of the progress on the layout. Temple is at +12cm, upper station is at + 10 cm after a ramp of 4.95 meter. So 2.12% ramp. Very smooth. The bridge is +8.5 cm at the higther. You can also gess some of the futur volumes. You can also seen the orientation of the upper station :

 

 

 

Some zoom to see better the details of the work on the framework, lot of job remain :

 

 

 

Edited July 1, 2018 by Bubule

[gavino200]

14 minutes ago, Bubule said:

 

 Hello all.

 

Big job to do now ! ! !  I need to trig all the elevations before building the poles of the bridge to the correct higth.

 

So here is a pair of views of the progress on the layout. Temple is at +12cm, upper station is at + 10 cm after a ramp of 4.95 meter. So 2.12% ramp. Very smooth. The bridge is +8.5 cm at the higther. You can also gess some of the futur volumes. You can also seen the orientation of the upper station :

 

 

 

 

 

Some zoom to see better the details of the work on the framework, lot of job remain :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's amazing work. Clearly, you're quite an expert woodworker. Would you mind sharing what kind of equipment you use to do your wood cutting?

[Bubule]

32 minutes ago, gavino200 said:

 

That's amazing work. Clearly, you're quite an expert woodworker. Would you mind sharing what kind of equipment you use to do your wood cutting?

 

Thanks a lot ! I use very classic electric tools : Altenative saw, electric Miter saw,  cicular saw, two wireless drill ( a big and a small) and a vibrant sander.

[JR 500系]

Amazing wood work! Your skills are excellent! Cutting wood into curve pieces aint that easy but I can see you have done it extremely well with your skills! Kudos! 

[cteno4]

Jr,

 

its not so hard with a jig/saber saw. Simple tool that’s ratty quick to pick up and petty safe as saws go. Very handy tool, pretty inexpensive and compact power tool.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDEJS600C-Select-5-0-Amp/dp/B00OJ72LHK/ref=sr_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1530512363&sr=1-4&keywords=jigsaw

 

cheers

 

jeff

[Bubule]

3 hours ago, cteno4 said:

Jr,

 

its not so hard with a jig/saber saw. Simple tool that’s ratty quick to pick up and petty safe as saws go. Very handy tool, pretty inexpensive and compact power tool.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDEJS600C-Select-5-0-Amp/dp/B00OJ72LHK/ref=sr_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1530512363&sr=1-4&keywords=jigsaw

 

cheers

 

jeff

 

I agree at 100%. The jig saw is a wonderfull tool and can cut fast almost every shapes you want, with precision and safely. What is more difficult, is the design of what you want to do, to get the proper idea that feat your needs. If you get the correct idea, the execution will not be a problem, it will be the fun ! The other thing is to be applyed. I mean you need to do precice drawing, and carefully follow the lines, sand a lot too to get smooth results. And take time to do good job, have fun when building ... it will bee time winned at the end and upgrade the quality of the results.  It's the secret !

Edited July 2, 2018 by Bubule

[cteno4]

Bubule, 

 

sorry to let the secret out! You are spot on once you start trying it’s not all that difficult! Mainly some care and practice and a few of the right tools for the job. 

 

Jeff

[Claude_Dreyfus]

Excellent work Jef. This will be a cracking layout when complete...

[gavino200]

16 hours ago, cteno4 said:

Jr,

 

its not so hard with a jig/saber saw. Simple tool that’s ratty quick to pick up and petty safe as saws go. Very handy tool, pretty inexpensive and compact power tool.

 

https://smile.amazon.com/BLACK-DECKER-BDEJS600C-Select-5-0-Amp/dp/B00OJ72LHK/ref=sr_1_4?s=power-hand-tools&ie=UTF8&qid=1530512363&sr=1-4&keywords=jigsaw

 

cheers

 

jeff

 

I agree. It's really sort of the opposite of the scroll saw. The wood stays in place while the saw moves around. Similar linear action. I think I'd actually be interested in getting one of these. I'd want to have a secure and stable set up to hold the wood. Saw horses, clamps etc.

 

A circular saw is something I don't want to ever have unless I eventually sprung for a "Saw Stop". But I also don't need one as straight lines are easy to do with hand saws. I might look at them at HD or somewhere. I've had some dodgy experiences with B&D garden tools - don't really trust the brand. 

[gavino200]

13 hours ago, Bubule said:

 

I agree at 100%. The jig saw is a wonderfull tool and can cut fast almost every shapes you want, with precision and safely. What is more difficult, is the design of what you want to do, to get the proper idea that feat your needs. If you get the correct idea, the execution will not be a problem, it will be the fun ! The other thing is to be applyed. I mean you need to do precice drawing, and carefully follow the lines, sand a lot too to get smooth results. And take time to do good job, have fun when building ... it will bee time winned at the end and upgrade the quality of the results.  It's the secret !

 

Thanks Bubule for the advice! Your design is amazing btw. It's inspiring to see what a beautiful and interesting layout can be made in such a relatively small space. I look forward to watching your progress with this project.

[chadbag]

The most important thing with woodworking tools is to always respect the tool, and double check everything you do -- don't become complacent.   Maybe even kind of like the Japanese train workers -- going so far as to point and verbalize what you want to do so you know you have double checked for safety if that helps you.

 

In my quest to build (solid body) guitars (bass only so far though a standard electric is on tap for my daughter) I had to learn how to use a router (both hand and table) and a table saw (as well as a band saw).   Both the router and table saw scared me to death.   Luckily I knew someone nearby who had been using these tools since his youth -- both as an accomplished hobby carpenter and in his job as a construction engineer (well mostly in earlier work before he became the engineer).   He came over for some pizza and a chance to play with the tools and walked me through everything -- how to be safe, how to use them, etc.

 

Once I learned that and practiced under his watchful eye a little, I gained some confidence.   I have used them a ton since but I always walk through the safety steps and double check what I am doing and remember what I was told (where not to stand, what not to do, etc).

 

These tools can be used safely, but you should never become complacent.   Even a jig saw can maim if you are not paying attention.

Edited July 2, 2018 by chadbag

[gavino200]

36 minutes ago, chadbag said:

The most important thing with woodworking tools is to always respect the tool, and double check everything you do -- don't become complacent.   Maybe even kind of like the Japanese train workers -- going so far as to point and verbalize what you want to do so you know you have double checked for safety if that helps you.

 

That's a very smart approach.

 

[cteno4]

It is very true to never get complacent. Also very very good to take a course or work with someone who knows what they are going to learn. I grew up in a big wood shop and I am also old enough I could take shop classes in jr high (woodshop was a joke bough as I was producing a lot of wooden toys for sale so i was an instant A). Sadly it’s hard to find many courses out there to learn.

 

being careful can become habit. I actually find driving much more dangerous than using the nastiest power tools. Lots more variables there out of your control and a slip of attention for a second can do a lot more damage than any power tool. 

 

Hurting yourself with a saber saw would be really tough to do, it would almost take purpose to do it... sawhorse and clamps are good to hold work securely. Or a little workstation like these.

 

https://www.lowes.com/pd/WORX-Pegasus-31-in-W-x-32-in-H-Plastic-Work-Bench/1000034439

 

But using power tools it’s always good to be cautious, but not scared. It takes some learning and practice to build confidence to do things cleanly and carefully. The folks I know with injuries from power tool were either doing something in a hurry or with out the proper setup or help (ie cutting larg pieces of wood w.o support or help) or just being increadable idiots (I worked for a contractor for a summer fo an idiot of a contractor who I was sure he would chop a hand off and learned years later he disabled himself with a circular saw in his thigh by jamming the guard open with a screwdriver and basically sawing something on his lap!) that just help verify Darwin...

 

In over 50 years using power tools I’ve never injured myself other than some minor scrapes. I’ve hurt myself worse tied a hammer, hand saw, xacto knife and matte knife than with any power tool. But even so popping for the saws stop was still worth it.

 

btw BD power shop tools are simple and ok and cheap. I jus grabbed hat one as an example as I think it was the top of the list. For doing a few cuts now and then it would do fine for $30. Better quality ones will of course cost you more if you plan to use them much. I had a nice miketa I had for a long time and beat up and it did well and did not use it for a few years and gave it to a friend. Later needed one for a few little things and got a $30 or so skil (step up from the bd) on sale and it’s lasted like 5 years now with a few uses a year.

 

cheers

 

jeff

 

buble let me know if you want me to move this part of the thread to a new one. Sorry it really wandered but your nice woodworking stimulated it!

[gavino200]

8 minutes ago, cteno4 said:

buble let me know if you want me to move this part of the thread to a new one. Sorry it really wandered but your nice woodworking stimulated it!

 

Y'know a basic woodworking thread would be useful. Also, it would be a real shame to distract any further from Bubule's amazing work. I plead guilty your honor 😞

 

[Bubule]

3 hours ago, gavino200 said:

 

Y'know a basic woodworking thread would be useful. Also, it would be a real shame to distract any further from Bubule's amazing work. I plead guilty your honor 😞

 

 

Hey guys, there is absolutely no problems to talk about carpentry on this thead. It's related to the subject and it's one of the objectives of  a forum to share technics. It 's an argumented discution and a hobby related subject, not bullshit. You are acquited guy !😋

 

Some more views of the job, to illustrate the purpose :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here you can see curves and counter-curves .. I'm lovin to see train on tha kind of track disposion : 😍

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 3, 2018 by Bubule

[Bubule]

 Hey guys !! 😁

 

I'm starting ot lay the peco track today !

I have started with the crossing witch is a beast to wire .... 8 frogs to be juiced !  :goggleeyes:

 

 

Lots of work but no troubles ... because that switch is a pure beauty  : 😍

 

 

 

Lot of work underneath too, because you need four motors very close to each others to power that awesome point : Some tricks have been deployed ( Cutting supports of tortoise because frame is to close, 10mm plywood socket to keep the wires going smooth underneath the motors, Ect ...)

 

 

 

 

And a little Preview ... track have been laid banked in curves ! ! ! Lots of work but i think it looks far better. 😺

 

 

 

 

More to come stay tuned !

 

Best regards.

 

JEF