lighthouse Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Hello, I have in my collection a wagon type Taki 3000 (black) Kato with white Nisseki Oil logo. ( http://www.katomodels.com/product/nmi/taki3000_e.shtml ) Unfortunately, I can find no information on the web in which period these cars were with this logo on duty !? As far as I know, the wagons were in service throughout Japan, including Hokkaido ?. Can somebody tell me something about that? Link to comment
kvp Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 http://www.sumidacrossing.org/Prototype/JRFreight/FreightCars/ Quote The TAKI 3000 is a post-war framed (or “side beam”) design, used to carry petroleum and similar products. It’s notable mainly because three of them carrying petroleum were involved in the 1967 collision, and subsequent fire, with a limestone train adjacent to Shinjuku station, which led to the eventual banning of freight trains from many of the city-center lines and construction of various bypass routes to shift freight away from heavy-use lines. JR Freight inherited a number of these, but they were replaced by other models and the last was scrapped in 2002. Now the question is how long the cars had the old paint scheme? (my guess is 1977 based on the wikipedia page, which gives 1947 to 1977) https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/国鉄タキ3000形貨車 Link to comment
lighthouse Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Thanks for the information. Interesting is the possibility to integrate different wheelsets (normal wheelsets and spoke wheelsets) ! http://highland.hakuba.ne.jp/~natsume/kamotsu/fctank3/tak3k2L.JPG http://highland.hakuba.ne.jp/~natsume/kamotsu/fctank3/n800380_a05Fc_tak3k1.jpg Edited January 17, 2018 by lighthouse Link to comment
railsquid Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 hours ago, lighthouse said: Hello, I have in my collection a wagon type Taki 3000 (black) Kato with white Nisseki Oil logo. ( http://www.katomodels.com/product/nmi/tタキ3000 北海道aki3000_e.shtml ) Unfortunately, I can find no information on the web in which period these cars were with this logo on duty !? As far as I know, the wagons were in service throughout Japan, including Hokkaido ?. Can somebody tell me something about that? A bit of searching brings up this picture: https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/osk_railjapan/GALLERY/show_image.html?id=8027455&no=5 which according to the caption on this page: https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/osk_railjapan/8027455.html is near Shimamatsu station on Hokkaido. The Japanese version of the Kato product page contains a bit more information and says they were in use up until 2002 (the Wikipedia article says 2001). No expert on these (actually all I know is the Taki 1000s) but I want some now... Link to comment
kvp Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 40 minutes ago, lighthouse said: Thanks for the information. Interesting is the possibility to integrate different wheelsets (normal wheelsets and spoke wheelsets) ! http://highland.hakuba.ne.jp/~natsume/kamotsu/fctank3/tak3k2L.JPG http://highland.hakuba.ne.jp/~natsume/kamotsu/fctank3/n800380_a05Fc_tak3k1.jpg Also, please note the bearings. The spoked wheel bogies had journal bearings, the later disc wheeled bogies on the next image still had the journal bearings, while the later photo on the wikipedia page shows roller bearings. This means two possible bogie and wheel types giving 3 different setups over the lifespan of the cars. The Kato model seem to show the middle one. Link to comment
lighthouse Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, railsquid said: A bit of searching brings up this picture: https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/osk_railjapan/GALLERY/show_image.html?id=8027455&no=5 which according to the caption on this page: https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/osk_railjapan/8027455.html is near Shimamatsu station on Hokkaido. The Japanese version of the Kato product page contains a bit more information and says they were in use up until 2002 (the Wikipedia article says 2001). No expert on these (actually all I know is the Taki 1000s) but I want some now... Since I have succumbed to a translation error ... I was displayed in German Shimomatsu, the place is located in Osaka ... During my break at work I was able to collect a few more pictures :-) @kvp Yes, I also noticed that I had not seen correctly in the first pictures. Edited January 17, 2018 by lighthouse Link to comment
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