Kiha66 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) DD53+DD51+SL 9600?+mixed freight. I really like the graffiti on the DD53, could a fluent member translate it? I've never seen any Japanese trains modeled with that, I wonder if there are any decals available. http://blog-imgs-44.fc2.com/a/k/e/akebonoroman/62390079.jpg http://blog-imgs-44.fc2.com/a/k/e/akebonoroman/62390078.jpg Edited November 11, 2017 by cteno4 1 Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 (edited) Love!! I love the DD53, probably my favourite JNR diesel. The inscription on the front says "douryokusha" - (moving) power car. Why? Not sure. Maybe it's pulling and the other two are dead? As an interesting aside, those kanji/hanja are read in Korean as "dongryeokcha"... which is the name given to certain passenger cars of the North Korean railway with pantographs and booster motors used in long trains... something probably unique to the DPRK. Edited November 11, 2017 by Pashina12 Link to comment
railsquid Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Do you have a source for these photos? As always, if they're on a web page, often some more context is available... 1 Link to comment
Kiha66 Posted November 11, 2017 Author Share Posted November 11, 2017 Here's the web page, I haden't realized JNR ran DD54s paired with steam locomotives. http://akebonoroman.blog3.fc2.com/blog-entry-84.html?pc 39 minutes ago, Pashina12 said: Love!! I love the DD53, probably my favourite JNR diesel. The inscription on the front says "douryokusha" - (moving) power car. Why? Not sure. Maybe it's pulling and the other two are dead? Thanks Pashina! What a strange place to write that, I would have thought it was part of the JNR union protests, but this sounds like something else. I also love the JNR boxcab diesels, I hope Kato makes a model of the DD53 someday. 1 Link to comment
Pashina12 Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Thanks for the link. Unfortunately the caption doesn't really say anything about the picture itself. Link to comment
railsquid Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 1 hour ago, Kiha66 said: Here's the web page, I haden't realized JNR ran DD54s paired with steam locomotives. http://akebonoroman.blog3.fc2.com/blog-entry-84.html?pc Thanks Pashina! What a strange place to write that, I would have thought it was part of the JNR union protests, but this sounds like something else. I also love the JNR boxcab diesels, I hope Kato makes a model of the DD53 someday. FWIW MicroAce makes one, I am strangely tempted. 1 Link to comment
marknewton Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 5 hours ago, Pashina12 said: The inscription on the front says "douryokusha" - (moving) power car. Why? Not sure. Maybe it's pulling and the other two are dead? The 9600 has had its connecting rods removed so it can be safely hauled dead-attached. Cheers, Mark. 1 Link to comment
miyakoji Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 8 hours ago, Kiha66 said: Thanks Pashina! What a strange place to write that, I would have thought it was part of the JNR union protests, but this sounds like something else. I also love the JNR boxcab diesels, I hope Kato makes a model of the DD53 someday. Kiha I'm inclined to think you're right about the graffiti being related to union activity. As far as I know the locomotive engineer union was distinct from the others, maybe that's why it says (more or less) locomotive. Link to comment
kvp Posted November 11, 2017 Share Posted November 11, 2017 Isn't it true today for the JR companies that snow sweeper locomotives are classified as mow equipment and could be driven by non locomotive engineers, so pretty much by anyone who has type qualification? (i seem to remember that this was emphasized in one of the railway journal episodes) Link to comment
marknewton Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 15 hours ago, Kiha66 said: Here's the web page, I haden't realized JNR ran DD54s paired with steam locomotives. http://akebonoroman.blog3.fc2.com/blog-entry-84.html?pc I've seen many photos of Hakubi Line trains that had steam and diesel power doubleheading, often with DD54s. My understanding is that they weren't very reliable. Which is a pity, because I think they're good looking units. Cheers, Mark. Link to comment
miyakoji Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 18 hours ago, kvp said: Isn't it true today for the JR companies that snow sweeper locomotives are classified as mow equipment and could be driven by non locomotive engineers, so pretty much by anyone who has type qualification? (i seem to remember that this was emphasized in one of the railway journal episodes) I think that's true of that small self-propelled snow removal equipment, yes. Also JR West numbered their latest locos as a KIYA type rather than a typical locomotive designation, I'm not sure why they did that but it seems to group them with EMUs rather than DE10s and DD51s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiYa_143 Link to comment
Kiha66 Posted November 12, 2017 Author Share Posted November 12, 2017 3 hours ago, miyakoji said: I think that's true of that small self-propelled snow removal equipment, yes. Also JR West numbered their latest locos as a KIYA type rather than a typical locomotive designation, I'm not sure why they did that but it seems to group them with EMUs rather than DE10s and DD51s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/KiYa_143 Actually, I believe it is part of the DMU naming scheme. Ki is standard DMU car with both cab and motor, and Ya is crew car. http://sunny-life.net/train_symbol/trainsymbol.htm#Symbols of the Japanese Trains Link to comment
miyakoji Posted November 12, 2017 Share Posted November 12, 2017 1 hour ago, Kiha66 said: Actually, I believe it is part of the DMU naming scheme. Ki is standard DMU car with both cab and motor, and Ya is crew car. http://sunny-life.net/train_symbol/trainsymbol.htm#Symbols of the Japanese Trains Yeah you're right, but either way they're not using conventional loco classification, and what I am wondering is whether or not that allows employees with or without particular qualifications to operate them, as kvp asked about. Maybe Bikkuri knows :) Link to comment
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