Looking for .. Seibu Tamagawa Decals?

[Guest keio6000]

hi Guys I'm interested in decal or dry transfer sets to allow me to transform a Kato 301 4-car set into an equivalent "white" Seibu-Tamagawa line version. Obviously the bodies will need painting, but to this I'd like to add the decals.  Actually, most of what I need is basically the "new style" Seibu logo in dry transfers as I don't particularly want to do the "season" artwork on them which I think is tacky.  Of course, I can wait a few more years in the vain hope that Kato Roundhouse will release this.  Maybe we can bribe nariichi-san to propose this to Kato at the next meeting :).  i mean - they have the mould - they just need to paint it and sell it for a nice high price. 

 

Barring that, does anybody know if GM or somebody else makes a useful set?  not interested in stickers.  Only decals or dry transfers.

 

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[katoftw]

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10333405

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10166696

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10117090

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10036325 And a very old probably gone set.  But wouldn't hurt to ask if renewal can be done.

Edited February 10, 2016 by katoftw

[Guest keio6000]

legend.. but is this it?  this maybe only updates it to the old yellow tamagawa 301s (by which i mean the sticker sets does not include the new seibu logos and such)

 

Edited February 10, 2016 by keio6000

[katoftw]

I've seen the new logos available also.  Just go into HS website and search "seibu instant lettering" or seibu decal" etc and something might com up.

[JR 500系]

Ahah! Keio6000 san is now moving fiercely to Seibu ~~  :)

[Guest keio6000]

Ahah! Keio6000 san is now moving fiercely to Seibu ~~  :)

 

well, in fairness, i did take the seibu tamagwa line to school every day for many years when i lived in japan a long, long time ago :).  because of this and because it was the only seibu train available for a long time and then after that it was available cheaply, i have several extra kato seibu 301//101 sets - at least one extra sufficient to sacrifice for such a project :)

 

Actually, my commute to and from school (the American School in Japan) was actually quite interesting - I lived at Hatsudai station which which is/was on the Keio "New Line" 1 stop from Shinjuku.   So, I took the Keio train to Sazasuka where I transferred to a faster Keio main line train usually to Chofu, where I transferred to a local that took me the three stops to Musashinodai. From there, I would make a 5 minute or so walk to Kita-Tama station (now known as Shiraitodai) and took the Seibu Tamagawa line to Tamabochimae (now Tama) station where my school was.  Ok, so that's 4 trains, but still more or less straightforward. 

 

Now here's where I open myself up to a future prison sentence even though this was over two and a half decades ago and I was a junior high school student.  I had a rail pass for the Keio and Seibu lines as you might expect.   However, most of my friends at school took JR back to central Tokyo.   Back then, there were two very unusual "free transfers" that I took advantage of.   First, I got on the Seibu Tamagawa line train at Tamabochimae using my rail pass.  However, instead of going back south to Kita-Tama, I got on a northbound train with my friends to Musashisakai on the JR Chuo line. Back then, there were no ticket gates between the small seibu tamagawa line and the Chuo line. So, I got on the Chuo line train usaully one stop to Mitaka, where i changed for a faster chuo line train if available to Shinjuku.  At Shinjuku, there was one small passageway where, again, it was possible to make a barrier-less transfer from JR to the Keio New Line (I think it involved going through the Keio main line terminal area) and I got on the next Keio new line train back to Hatsudai.  I then exited with my rail pass, having "stolen" a ride on JR and bits of the Keio new line and Seibu Tamagawa line for my return journey to which I was not entitled.  Naughty boy.  I suppose a particularly clever station attendant might have noticed that my arrivals coincided with westbound keio new line arrivals, but given that the station was relatively busy, well, nobody ever questioned me.  I'd like to think that I've paid back JR through subsequent adult years of railfanning and rail pass buying and so forth that might not have happened had i not developed the corresponding fascination then.  By the way, my journey which allowed for two "barrierless" transfers from JR to non-JR was I think quite unusual as that would normally be a very rare situation and I was "fortunate" to take advantage of them right where I needed them.

 

 

That said, back in the days where passes were checked manually, the normal scrupulous honesty of many Japanese notwithstanding, there must have been quite a lot of similar stuff going on by adults for whom rail passes were substantially more expensive than my heavily discounted student passes.  For example, a person with a very long commute within a barrierless system might have bought two passes - one for a station or two at the beginning of his journey and one for a station or two at the end and just used one to get on and one to get off.   More common,. however, must have been the temptation to, if finding yourself far from hiome, to buy the cheapest ticket possible just to get into the system at your origin and then just get off using your rail pass at your destination.    I'm guessing with today's increasingly digital barrier systems if you don't "tap in" but try this ticket trick, you'll get flagged and sent over to the ticket window for some explaining - something you might get away with once. 

Edited February 11, 2016 by keio6000

[railsquid]

I deny, as an impoverished student, ever having exploited commuter passes on the return journey by paying the minimum fare to get into the system, and using the commuter pass to exit (kiseru). I also know nothing about the loophole which didn't enable me to get from Shinjuku to the Ginza area and back on a single ticket by leaving the Marunouchi line at Kasumigaseki, pretending to change lines outside the ticket gates (theoretical 30 minute timelimit IIRC), spending time in the area, re-entering the system on the same ticket and exiting at Shinjuku 3-chome, not having taken a few hours to apparently travel a single station.

Edited February 11, 2016 by railsquid

[JR 500系]

Thanks for sharing that 'tedious' journey to school! that was kinda tiring to go from to and fro...

 

Good trick on that one!  :) Hope no JR employees are reading this... 

[kevinrandell]

Interesting to here that you were a student at a school that I am know a teacher at. I live just down the road from Tama station and the Seibu-Tamagawa line.

[railsquid]

Staying slightly off-topic, when I was a student I lived near Sasazuka, and when I came back to Japan I spent a few months living in Hatsudai. Now I live near the Seibu Shinjuku line.

 

It's still no problem to take extended journeys making use of barrier-less interchanges, especially with all the Tokyo Metro/Toei through-workings, though Shinjuku is all "sealed-up" these days.

[cteno4]

Sounds like it was your critical thinking class at school's fault! Not a bad skill to hone if to good ends! ;-p

 

Jeff

[Guest keio6000]

Look what I found..

 

http://page23.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/o137167987

[katoftw]

That will work!