Welcome and help needed

[Bruno]

Hi

 

I am a model "railroader" from France. I have the luck to be part of a model club.

As I've finished my US Project in N, I'd like to attack another project : a japanese layout.

 

To convince my club I am looking reference for N locomtive very original (except shinkansen) for his design or even tramway. (All time as the goal is to open others from model from France)

 

I'll work with young teenagers 

 

Another question, for a shinkansen do you know the minimum radius for turn? 

 

Thanks a lot

 

here's a WIP of my work. As I am waiting figures to finish it I don't have any recent pictures

 

 

Edited October 1, 2015 by Bruno

[splifdfx]

Salut Bruno !

Welcome on this forum / Bienvenue sur ce forum !

 

There are no pictures of your work's WIPs in your post :/

[Krackel Hopper]

Is there any particular time or era you would prefer to model?  Modern or otherwise?

 

When you say "very original (except shinkansen)" do you mean in design?

 

If design original to Japan..

 

Nankai Rapi:t - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10308647

Nankai Rapi:t (Peach) - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10308650

 

Series 181-100 'Asama' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10261536

Series 485 'Hibari' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279143

 

KiHa 72 'Yufuin No Mori' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10173453

 

 

Here are some that are maybe not quite as original design but still 'feel' very Japanese.

 

Series 115-300 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10311207

Series 583 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10286562

 

KiHa 40 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10245540

KiHa 181 - 'Tsubasa' http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10300134

 

 

There are also a lot of very colorful trains in Japan.

 

Series 781 'Doraemon' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10036965

E231-500 'Rilakkuma' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10246583

 

KiHa 110 'Tohoku Emotion' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279314

KiHa 183 ' Asahiyama Zoo' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10164000

KiHa 40 'Fox / Crab / Squid' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10066756

 

Sanriku Type 36 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10247002

Sanriku Type 36 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10250582

 

 

I linked from HobbySearch as they have a great product list.  However, many of my links are 'sold out' there.

 

http://www.modeltrainplus.net/ is a great source for purchasing.  

 

They will also do 'personal shopping' for you if you have something specific you are looking to find but it sold out online.

 

I hope this helps.  There is a lot available for Japanese N.  If you have more questions, just ask.  Someone here will be able to answer them for you!

[cteno4]

Bruno,

 

Welcome, glad you found the forum! I think you will find Japanese trains are were you can find just about anything you may dream up in train design that is actually running. Krackel hopper got you going here with a start on the different directions you can go and I think you will find if you look thru hobby search's site to see the great variety of trains and there are a lot of them modeled!

 

cheers

 

jeff

[E6系]

Hello Mr Bruno,

 

Firstly I suggest you consider the scene.  Here are several references that might be of interest:

 

Hakone Tozan Line

 

Enoden Electric Railway

 

Odakyu Limited Express joins Tokyo to both Hakone and Enoshima.

 

Yufuin-no-mori in Kyushu to the south.  Please consider some of the other trains featured on this website. 

 

Each of the above will tie in with some of the shinkansen, most notably the N700, 700, and N700A series.

 

Good luck.

[JR 500系]

Welcome! Most of your queries are answered from our friends above, & the min radius of Shinkansen to pass nicely at full speed is R315 (recommended by manufacturer), though they have been tried at R280 without much problems.

 

Have fun & looking forward to ur pictures!

[Bruno]

Salut Bruno !

Welcome on this forum / Bienvenue sur ce forum !

 

There are no pictures of your work's WIPs in your post :/

Arf 

[Bruno]

Is there any particular time or era you would prefer to model?  Modern or otherwise?

 

When you say "very original (except shinkansen)" do you mean in design?

 

If design original to Japan..

 

Nankai Rapi:t - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10308647

Nankai Rapi:t (Peach) - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10308650

 

Series 181-100 'Asama' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10261536

Series 485 'Hibari' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279143

 

KiHa 72 'Yufuin No Mori' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10173453

 

 

Here are some that are maybe not quite as original design but still 'feel' very Japanese.

 

Series 115-300 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10311207

Series 583 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10286562

 

KiHa 40 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10245540

KiHa 181 - 'Tsubasa' http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10300134

 

 

There are also a lot of very colorful trains in Japan.

 

Series 781 'Doraemon' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10036965

E231-500 'Rilakkuma' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10246583

 

KiHa 110 'Tohoku Emotion' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279314

KiHa 183 ' Asahiyama Zoo' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10164000

KiHa 40 'Fox / Crab / Squid' - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10066756

 

Sanriku Type 36 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10247002

Sanriku Type 36 - http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10250582

 

 

I linked from HobbySearch as they have a great product list.  However, many of my links are 'sold out' there.

 

http://www.modeltrainplus.net/ is a great source for purchasing.  

 

They will also do 'personal shopping' for you if you have something specific you are looking to find but it sold out online.

 

I hope this helps.  There is a lot available for Japanese N.  If you have more questions, just ask.  Someone here will be able to answer them for you!

Wonderful

By Original I mean effectively the design

Now I must look everything

 

Thanks a lot for your effort. I'll look now

[Bruno]

thanks again here's my fav with my comments when I discovered them

 

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10308647

Wow this one is a mix between a boat and a train. Wonderful

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10261536

Excellent

 

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/image/10173453a3/20/3

Pfff I must find this train

You found exactly what I want

 

 

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10286562

Superb design

 

Doraemon forever ;)

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10036965

 

Special mention for a black and white layout with handdrawing background

http://www.1999.co.jp/eng/10279314

 

Thanks again

[Bruno]

Bruno,

 

Welcome, glad you found the forum! I think you will find Japanese trains are were you can find just about anything you may dream up in train design that is actually running. Krackel hopper got you going here with a start on the different directions you can go and I think you will find if you look thru hobby search's site to see the great variety of trains and there are a lot of them modeled!

 

cheers

 

jeff

You're right

I have a complete crush on the model

 

Think to do a new layout for me also. I am excited

[Bruno]

Hello Mr Bruno,

 

Firstly I suggest you consider the scene.  Here are several references that might be of interest:

 

Hakone Tozan Line

 

Enoden Electric Railway

 

Odakyu Limited Express joins Tokyo to both Hakone and Enoshima.

 

Yufuin-no-mori in Kyushu to the south.  Please consider some of the other trains featured on this website. 

 

Each of the above will tie in with some of the shinkansen, most notably the N700, 700, and N700A series.

 

Good luck.

Wow

Impressive

I've never imagined so much variety

 

This one is my fav for the moment

http://www.odakyu.jp/english/romancecar/

 

Let's say the steoreotyp : Japan is a mix between tradition and modernity

Ok I left

[Bruno]

Welcome! Most of your queries are answered from our friends above, & the min radius of Shinkansen to pass nicely at full speed is R315 (recommended by manufacturer), though they have been tried at R280 without much problems.

 

Have fun & looking forward to ur pictures!

Thanks a lot for the information

 

Do you think If I use a radius of R315 at full speed there won't be any trouble?

My son love to drive very fastly

[Bruno]

Thanks everyone to have share your time with your gentle answers

[cteno4]

Bruno,

 

315 is around the minimum comfortable radius for shinkansens. they like it a bit larger, but should run ok, but the faster you want to go the larger the radius you will need w/o things going off the tracks!

 

they will look very funny going around 315 radius curves, they even look a bit klunky around the larger radius curves as the ends stick out so much.

 

judging from the pict of your other layout there, i think you will find it easy to do japanese small layouts like that with a lot more things in them. the cool thing about japan is trains go right buy (and even thru or under!) just about everything, at times extremely close! scenes in japan also can change in a heartbeat and there is not as much city planning and zoning in japan so you can have all sorts of building pushed right up next to each other. this means in a small layout you can cram in a lot of variety in structures and scenes and have a lot of fun with it!

 

You are in trouble if you loved those models above, there are scads more like those with a lot of variations to boot! If you like anime there are dozens of trains and trams painted with anime characters. designs run the gambit from a box to the jules verne rapit (the blue sub looking one above). there are hundreds of these modeled, it can really break your bank account!

 

cheers

 

jeff

Edited September 30, 2015 by cteno4

[Bruno]

 

315 is around the minimum comfortable radius for shinkansens. they like it a bit larger, but should run ok, but the faster you want to go the larger the radius you will need w/o things going off the tracks!

 

they will look very funny going around 315 radius curves, they even look a bit klunky around the larger radius curves as the ends stick out so much.

 

judging from the pict of your other layout there, i think you will find it easy to do japanese small layouts like that with a lot more things in them. the cool thing about japan is trains go right buy (and even thru or under!) just about everything, at times extremely close! scenes in japan also can change in a heartbeat and there is not as much city planning and zoning in japan so you can have all sorts of building pushed right up next to each other. this means in a small layout you can cram in a lot of variety in structures and scenes and have a lot of fun with it!

 

You are in trouble if you loved those models above, there are scads more like those with a lot of variations to boot! If you like anime there are dozens of trains and trams painted with anime characters. designs run the gambit from a box to the jules verne rapit (the blue sub looking one above). there are hundreds of these modeled, it can really break your bank account!

You're right I am in trouble. I have a complete crush

 

Do you know if we can find alternate models like steampunk version or futurist version of model?

[velotrain]

Do you know if we can find alternate models like steampunk version or futurist version of model?

 

Bruno - near the bottom of this linked site is the only (micro) steampunk layout that I have ever seen.

 

http://www.carendt.com/small-layout-scrapbook/page-72a-april-2008-mid-month-extra-section/

[Bruno]

Very impressive

[velotrain]

Especially considering that it's all paper and cardboard, save for track and trains.

 

Since the sub needs to submerge to get out, I just hope the water is deep enough ;-)

Or - maybe those sharp fins cut through the track if necessary.

 

It's not uncommon to see ships in impossible "harbors" on layouts, or large trucks in dead-end locations where there's no room for them to turn around.

[railsquid]

It's not uncommon to see ships in impossible "harbors" on layouts, or large trucks in dead-end locations where there's no room for them to turn around.

 

I see plenty of cars parked in spaces where you wonder how they got in there. Mind you that real life here...

[cteno4]

Curt has a container ship like this on his layout, aptly named the Kobayashi maru!

 

http://www.japanrailmodelers.org/photos/kurtslayout/pages/page_53.html

 

Nice steam punk!

 

Jeff

[katoftw]

The MicroAce A7890 Kiha 72 Yufuin no Mori is very hard to find unless you are prepared to pay for it at double the original price.  However the MicroAce A2162 Kiha 71 Yufuin no Mori pops up on yahoo auctions every now and then.  I just got one for 7,750 yen.  The later is a 10 year old model, but hopefully you can find a well looked after set.