railsquid Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I don't have an English link yet, but the official ceremony to mark the begin of the reconstruction of the JR part of Shibuya station was on TV yesterday. Here's a Japanese newspaper report. Basically this will involve moving the Saikyo line platforms into the main station area (occupying part of the area of the old Tokyu Toyoko Line terminus, which was largely gone the last time I looked a month or so ago) while the two Yamanote line side platforms will be merged into a single island platform. Scheduled completion date: 2027. I guess that might make it the last station on the Yamanote line to get platform doors. 6 Link to comment
MechaDen Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Start of reconstruction? They've been doing construction around that station area since I got to Japan a few years ago. Now I'm confused. Link to comment
railsquid Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Let me emphasize some relevant words of my post which is titled "JR Shibuya reconstruction starts": begin of the reconstruction of the JR part of Shibuya station The Tokyu/Fukutoshin parts of the wider Shibuya station have indeed been under reconstruction (or deconstruction for some time), now it's the JR station's turn as space is now available. Edited September 8, 2015 by railsquid Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted September 8, 2015 Share Posted September 8, 2015 Apparently one portion of the redevelopment will be finished by FY2019: With an eye toward the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, a major rooftop observatory is being planned atop a new Shibuya Station building that will offer a stunning view of the bustling "Scramble Crossing" intersection far below. Tokyu Corp. added plans to build the observation deck atop the new 230-meter high East Tower, currently being constructed directly above Shibuya Station, to create a new tourist attraction for visitors to the 2020 Games. http://ajw.asahi.com/article/behind_news/social_affairs/AJ201508120004 Link to comment
railsquid Posted September 8, 2015 Author Share Posted September 8, 2015 (edited) Before I forget, some pictures of the former Tokyu terminus on July 23rd 2015, with deconstruction well underway. The Yamanote line platforms are just visible in the background; the Saikyo line (Yamanote freight line) runs in front of them, and above it is the walkway to the current Saikyo line platforms quite a way to the left (south). Pictures are taken panning left-to-right (or south-to-north) from the east side of the station. The scaffolding on the rear-right of this picture surround the current Ginza line station (which will be moved backwards so it straddles the Tokyu Toyoko/Fukutoshin line station. Edited September 8, 2015 by railsquid 4 Link to comment
StarrWulfe Posted September 13, 2015 Share Posted September 13, 2015 (edited) I've been lucky to have been able to talk to both Tokyu and JR contractors, planners and archietects on this development, and we are going to start to see some serious building happening after November. Up until now, most of the construction has been taking place under the east side of the development to move the Shibuya River canal into a new culvert along with creating a new water retention facility. Since that is done, we will now see more above ground works start in earnest. As far as JR is concerned, They will first need to make the Yamanote line inner loop platform (Shinagawa-Tokyo bound) into an island platform for the outer loop trains to stop there. Next they can then hack away at the then disused platform on that side and add another track somehow, creating a new island platform out of the space. At that point the Yamanote Line will move to that platform temporarily. The island platform first created then can be shifted more and become the new Saikyo Line platform, and the Yamanote platform will be shifted over more and become the new Yamanote Platform... side by side in the final configuration. This will have to happen while the station is in operation, still catering to the same amount of people that have to use the station everyday (including yours truly ;) )BTW, @railsquid, let me empasize a few points they passed on to me, because I asked: JR will be using their existing property lines and not encroach upon Tokyu's property line--which if you see the site in person, is impossible now since there's a building foundation going in where the old Tokyu Toyoko station used to be. How they manage that is beyond my comprehension but I can't wait to document the process.The goal for completing the JR platform rennovation is the end of 2019/beginning of 2020, in time for the Olympics. Again, my mouth dropped, but since I have a booklet from Tokyu along with a press release from JR East, this is gospel. The completely renovated station will be done 7 years later in 2027, but the platform structures will be there in time for the Olympics. Here's a news report with coverage of the ground breaking as well as a a good graphic overview from TokyoMX TV the other night... Edited September 13, 2015 by StarrWulfe 3 Link to comment
railsquid Posted September 13, 2015 Author Share Posted September 13, 2015 Interesting stuff :) BTW, @railsquid, let me empasize a few points they passed on to me, because I asked: JR will be using their existing property lines and not encroach upon Tokyu's property line--which if you see the site in person, is impossible now since there's a building foundation going in where the old Tokyu Toyoko station used to be. How they manage that is beyond my comprehension but I can't wait to document the process. Ah OK; I've heard several times that JR was waiting for the Tokyoku terminus to be removed before reconstruction could start. I can just about see how they could realign everything into the existing footprint, though it seems a bit tight, and using the current inner loop platform as an island platform for both lines seems a tad optimistic. Anyway we shall see what happens :) Link to comment
kvp Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 So as i see the northen entry point is fixed at the road bridge for all 4 tracks. The east curve of the saikyo bordering the Tokyu property is also fixed and stays in place. The two track middle portion of the station will be in place of the current eastern yamanote platform and the current eastern yamanote/western saikyo tracks will be replaced by the saikyo platform, while the new yamanote platform will be partially located in place of the north part of the eastern yamanote and south part of the western yamanote platforms, with an extension toward the south. This is completly doable with two temporary platforms, erected on temporary frames. (like rubber mat covered wood on metal tubes) The island platforms seem to be 150% thickness compared to the current side platforms. It means a 25% reduction in surface and capacity, but only if both directions are equally busy at the same time. Link to comment
railsquid Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 (edited) Lots of progress visible around Shibuya station, even compared to a couple of months ago. This is the new tower (not sure if it has a name yet, working title seems to be "Scramble Square Complex, East Tower", occupying more-or-less the site of the old Toyoko terminus: Shibuya: New "Scramble Square Tower" (?), 2017-12-14 by Rail Squid, on Flickr As I suspect, some (3) of the former Toyoko line bridges spanning Route 246 have been retained, and look like they're being integrated as a connecting deck between this tower (on the right): Shibuya - former Tokyu Toyoku line bridges, 2017-12-14 by Rail Squid, on Flickr and the one being constructed to the south, main part of the "Shibuya Stream Tower" complex (seen from the south): Shibuya - new "Shibuya Stream Tower" (?), 2017-12-14 by Rail Squid, on Flickr A new entrance to the Fukutoshin/Toyoko line station has appeared, (to the right of the above tower), also providing escalator access to the new complex of pedestrian walkways which are slowly emerging: Shibuya - new entrance/connecting escalators by Rail Squid, on Flickr Edited December 15, 2017 by railsquid 2 Link to comment
railsquid Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 Now to the JR bit: this concrete structure will carry the Yamanote freight line (in the direction of Osaki), being built a few metres to the east of the existing line, running through space formerly occupied by the Toyoko line terminus: shibuya-4-new-yamanote-goods-line-1 by Rail Squid, on Flickr The new line, seen from the end of the Saikyo line platforms; the square tunnel-like portal is where the line is integrated into the "Scramble Square Complex, East Tower" pictured in the previous post : shibuya-4-new-yamanote-goods-line-2 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Broader overview: shibuya-4-new-yamanote-goods-line-3 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Viaduct over Route 246 (structure on right is one of the old Toyoko line bridges): shibuya-5-new-yamanote-goods-line-3 by Rail Squid, on Flickr New line at the north end of the station: Shibuya: new Yamanote goods line at north end of station, 2017-12-14 by Rail Squid, on Flickr It will be interesting to see what logistical jiggery-pokery will be required over the next few years to rearrange all the JR platforms; currently everything's pretty much unchanged. 6 Link to comment
miyakoji Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 I'd be interested to see the planning and meetings that go into this :) Link to comment
railsquid Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 The amount of planning and logistics which goes into these operations must be amazing, and they manage it with comparatively little disruption. On 9/14/2015 at 12:54 AM, StarrWulfe said: BTW, @railsquid, let me empasize a few points they passed on to me, because I asked: JR will be using their existing property lines and not encroach upon Tokyu's property line--which if you see the site in person, is impossible now since there's a building foundation going in where the old Tokyu Toyoko station used to be. How they manage that is beyond my comprehension but I can't wait to document the process. Per observations above, the new Yamanote freight line (Saikyo/Shonan Shinjuku line) track towards Osaki *is* outside the bounds of the existing JR station, and is actually physically integrated into the new tower being built on the Toyoko station site. Link to comment
kvp Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Two possible explanations: -JRE bought some of the Tokyu site -the old Toyoko terminus was using some of the JNR site Considering the old station was built on a river, anything is possible. Link to comment
railsquid Posted December 15, 2017 Author Share Posted December 15, 2017 3 hours ago, kvp said: Two possible explanations: -JRE bought some of the Tokyu site -the old Toyoko terminus was using some of the JNR site Obviously JR and Tokyu have come to some kind of arrangement as part of the overall project, which looks full of complexities (e.g. looks like Tokyu will be building over the JR part of the station too); what the details of that are, I have no idea. However the poster I was quoting, who appeared to have some inside knowledge of the situation, is evidently incorrect about JR not using part of the old Toyoko terminus space. As for the "river", that's being rechannelled somewhere in the space between the Fukutoshin/Toyoko line station and the JR station, and a floodwater retention chamber is being constructed (possibly finished by now, I haven't looked at the details). 1 Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) First substantial change at JR Shibuya will take place this weekend, with the Yamanote freight line closed for most of Saturday and Sunday: jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_005 by Rail Squid, on Flickr to facilitate the first stage in moving the Saikyo/Shonan-Shinjuku line platform parallel with the Yamanote line platforms: jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_008 by Rail Squid, on Flickr This is looking northwards; the southbound line will be connected with the new line on the right, which bypasses the existing JR station, encroaching on space formerly used by the Tokyu station and which is now largely a skyscraper. jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_006 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Evidenly the move will need lots of sandbags (looking back south): jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_007 by Rail Squid, on Flickr I presume the existing platform will also be temporarily expanded to fill the gap; it will also need to be raised slightly, and fencing is already in place (not pictured) to separate the raised section from the other side of the platform,w hich will remain as is. The new platform is taking shape (view from the walkway connecting the existing Saikyo line platforms with the main station): jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_009 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Note those girders form part of the skyscraper rising on the old Tokyu station site, so the rails are actually running through the building. The walkway itself is supported by these massive horizontal beams over the existing running lines: jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_010 by Rail Squid, on Flickr which I suspect will need to be removed before the southbound platform can be created here. At the north end of the station, it looks very much like the existing southbound line bridge will be moved outwards. One new rail is already in place, it almost looks as if they're just adding one new rail (on the right/east) and planning to reuse the existing right-hand/eastern rail as the left-hand/western rail...) jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_001 by Rail Squid, on Flickr jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_003 by Rail Squid, on Flickr jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_004 by Rail Squid, on Flickr jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_002 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Looks like it will be a busy 48 hours for a bunch of people... Edited May 25, 2018 by railsquid 3 1 Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 8:28 PM, railsquid said: At the north end of the station, it looks very much like the existing southbound line bridge will be moved outwards. One new rail is already in place, it almost looks as if they're just adding one new rail (on the right/east) and planning to reuse the existing right-hand/eastern rail as the left-hand/western rail...) jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_001 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Nope, looks like they removed the old one and maneuvered a nice new shiny white bridge section into place. 3 Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 26, 2018 Author Share Posted May 26, 2018 On 5/25/2018 at 8:28 PM, railsquid said: At the north end of the station, it looks very much like the existing southbound line bridge will be moved outwards. One new rail is already in place, it almost looks as if they're just adding one new rail (on the right/east) and planning to reuse the existing right-hand/eastern rail as the left-hand/western rail...) jr-shibuya-2018-05-25_001 by Rail Squid, on Flickr Wrong about the rail too, looks like it was laid to enable the new bridge segment to be rolled into place. Youtube video on the Yamanote Line starting at Harajuku, with a view of the ongoing work. 1 2 Link to comment
kvp Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 It will be nice and new, practical even, but that old organically built heap of a station they torn down was really unique, of course only from a railfan standpoint. I'm sure commuters will like the new layout more. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted May 26, 2018 Share Posted May 26, 2018 Another video, by the same person as above, taken just before construction started. 1 Link to comment
bill937ca Posted May 27, 2018 Share Posted May 27, 2018 Video by tsu 1112k. Video by baba46494649 2 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted May 28, 2018 Share Posted May 28, 2018 Is this also related to the Shibuya construction works? Seems like the Shonan-Shinjuku line changed at Osaki due to some works on the crossing at Shibuya? (if my limited Japanese is doing me some good...) Link to comment
railsquid Posted May 28, 2018 Author Share Posted May 28, 2018 Correct, Shonan-Shinjuku and Saikyo lines were closed between Shinjuku and Osaki. Link to comment
bill937ca Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 Another progress video. Video by たかっちゃん 1 Link to comment
JR 500系 Posted June 22, 2018 Share Posted June 22, 2018 Wow that's even a Japanology Plus episode on this... 3 Link to comment
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