Kiha_120 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 (edited) The moron says to loco engineer " Didn't you see me ? " ( as he waves a red cloth ) at approaching freight train ! The ridiculous driver of the equally ridiculous car should be fined for consequent damage to railroad property, delay to the train and stress to the driver/engineer ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss8RdZLPCvs#t=89 Edited August 12, 2015 by Kiha_120 Link to comment
Guest keio6000 Posted August 12, 2015 Share Posted August 12, 2015 The moron says to loco engineer " Didn't you see me ? " ( as he waves a red cloth ) at approaching freight train ! The ridiculous driver of the equally ridiculous car should be fined for consequent damage to railroad property, delay to the train and stress to the driver/engineer ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss8RdZLPCvs#t=89 from the driver's tone of voice he was completely apologetic and realized that he messed up. sure, he made a mistake, but that doesn't make him a "moron." have you never made a mistake before? i'm sure he will be fined correspondingly and have to pay for damages caused. life goes on and let's be thankful nobody got hurt. Link to comment
Kiha_120 Posted August 12, 2015 Author Share Posted August 12, 2015 from the driver's tone of voice he was completely apologetic and realized that he messed up. sure, he made a mistake, but that doesn't make him a "moron." have you never made a mistake before? i'm sure he will be fined correspondingly and have to pay for damages caused. life goes on and let's be thankful nobody got hurt. I disagree - the driver ( of this outlandish car ) must have realised the wheelbase of the vehicle made it all but certain he would 'ground out' on this crossing - if not, he shouldn't be driving because it comes down to poor judgement on his part. As for no body getting hurt - that was sheer luck, and not all injuries are of a physical nature. I'm certain the train driver was very shaken up by the experience, and could well affect his job, after all, he didn't know the car was empty of people. As for making mistakes - most assuredly I make mistakes - but NOT the type we see in this video. I would never even consider crossing a live railway with the vehicle depicted, when I could see the crossing ramp and work out that if I attempt to cross, the thing will ground out. The only good point here is that this car will never obstruct another crossing ever again. 1 Link to comment
westfalen Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) American level crossings are not as 'level' as we are used to in the U.K. and Australia, maybe the reason they call them grade crossings over there. ;) I almost bottomed out a few times when I was driving from Texas to California in a Ford Fusion (a normal medium sized car), but still, when you are driving a stretch limo you should be aware of its limitations. And you are right about the train driver, some have to give up the job after and incident like this so his and his family's lives could be changed for ever even if no one was in the car. When you see a vehicle cross in front of you and you put the brakes into emergency you don't know how it will turn out, hitting the car or a piece of debris at the wrong angle could even derail the train. Edited August 13, 2015 by westfalen 1 Link to comment
Guest keio6000 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) I disagree - the driver ( of this outlandish car ) must have realised the wheelbase of the vehicle made it all but certain he would 'ground out' on this crossing - if not, he shouldn't be driving because it comes down to poor judgement on his part. As for no body getting hurt - that was sheer luck, and not all injuries are of a physical nature. I'm certain the train driver was very shaken up by the experience, and could well affect his job, after all, he didn't know the car was empty of people. As for making mistakes - most assuredly I make mistakes - but NOT the type we see in this video. I would never even consider crossing a live railway with the vehicle depicted, when I could see the crossing ramp and work out that if I attempt to cross, the thing will ground out. The only good point here is that this car will never obstruct another crossing ever again. it must be cold and lonely up there on your high horse. but i'm sure glad you get to be the universal arbiter of what cars people can have. also, that you "assure" me that you know what type of mistakes you will or will not make in the future is really and truly impressive. maybe you should be hired by NASA given that you have this skill. i wonder what kind of job you people have that you don't have to deal with people and their occasional mistakes? the driver drives a train for a living. if he can't steel himself to the idea that at some point, for any number of reasons, his train might hit a vehicle, then he should not be in the "highly demanding" job of train driver. and the "piece of car gets under the train, derailing it" argument? sure. and you can get bubonic plague from a papercut from your printer at your office. it could happen. bubble wrap your children now! again: the driver messed up. all are in agreement, including the driver in this. but kiha120's holier than thou, utterly gratuitous piling on adds nothing useful and all he has done is advertise his own ignorance of the nature of mistakes. Edited August 13, 2015 by keio6000 Link to comment
Kiha_120 Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 it must be cold and lonely up there on your high horse. but i'm sure glad you get to be the universal arbiter of what cars people can have. also, that you "assure" me that you know what type of mistakes you will or will not make in the future is really and truly impressive. maybe you should be hired by NASA given that you have this skill. i wonder what kind of job you people have that you don't have to deal with people and their occasional mistakes? the driver drives a train for a living. if he can't steel himself to the idea that at some point, for any number of reasons, his train might hit a vehicle, then he should not be in the "highly demanding" job of train driver. and the "piece of car gets under the train, derailing it" argument? sure. and you can get bubonic plague from a papercut from your printer at your office. it could happen. bubble wrap your children now! again: the driver messed up. all are in agreement, including the driver in this. but kiha120's holier than thou, utterly gratuitous piling on adds nothing useful and all he has done is advertise his own ignorance of the nature of mistakes. Oh boy ! You are really getting out of the pram on this aren't you ? Unlike you, I have earned my crust working on railways and have seen the crazy things some will do in order to save a few seconds....like idiots jumping through droplight door windows as the train they were too late to board in the accepted way, is already moving from the platform - this particular incident happened right before my eyes as the 'gentleman' was LITERALLY hanging half in, half out of the door ! So don't talk to me about 'holier than thou' ! Or maybe you think I am being too over the top calling this man an idiot ? OK, how about this next idiot, who after getting off the train ( same station ) was so paralytic (drunk football fan ), he somehow fell down between the two carriages, ( one of which he has just come out of ) and was lying on the track unconscious with his neck actually touching the wheel flange - the only thing which saved his life was sharp eyes of RAILWAYMEN doing their job - the driver of the loco had a green and wanted to go - all that saved the drunk guy to have been decapitated was the right of way 'tip' from platform staff, but fortunately for the drunk, there were people who KNOW what safety is all about, and keep eyes on, because that's what is drummed into ALL grades of railway people on induction - SAFETY FIRST ! ( and then punctuality in THAT order ! ) Incidentally, that particular incident cost the TOC dearly, as minutes delay mean fines - the signal was switched back to red, the loco was shut down, the passengers still aboard had to de train and wait for buses, the line was effectively blocked causing further reaction to all following trains, and the train was stopped for well over an hour ( police intervention, ambulance etc etc ) There are numerous other incidents which I personally have been involved with, so don't talk such rot about situations you are ignorant of - try doing the job yourself and see how far YOUR attitude will get you ! Btw, I am the LAST person to 'bubblewrap' as you so eloquently put it - but when it comes to REAL safety issues, you better believe I get angry at mindless stupidity, It's known as having a conscience and awareness for the repercussions of ! Your words regards the driver of the train shown in the video shows your total LACK of empathy for those who do the job - as for saying he shouldn't do the job if it would affect him, I suggest YOU get the qualifications, do the job yourself and come back and tell this forum just how 'unaffected' you were after you hit a vehicle/person which you unable to stop for. Link to comment
Guest keio6000 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) "Your words regards the driver of the train shown in the video shows your total LACK of empathy for those who do the job - as for saying he shouldn't do the job if it would affect him, I suggest YOU get the qualifications, do the job yourself and come back and tell this forum just how 'unaffected' you were after you hit a vehicle/person which you unable to stop for." I didn't say he was unaffected. Stop mendaciously "quoting" things I did not write. What I am saying is that any railwayman who can't or won't steel himself to the possibility of hitting something or somebody at some point for whatever reason, well, should well reconsider his career. I'm not going to respond to the rest of your puerile nonsense. Of course there are idiots out there. Nobody doubts this. There are also people who make mistakes. You seem so content to judge from on high so bloody cocksure of the mistakes you would not make and so damn ready to condemn somebody's entire character based on a mistake - well... your insecurities are showing to say the least. And not as if it matters, but I worked on the pointy end in aviation for some time. While I'm sorry I can't take up your childish challenge of reliving my life to be a railwayman, I assure you that you're not the only one who has dealt with such issues. No further response will be forthcoming from me and in fact since you've outright lied about my words, I'm just going to ban you from my interface here so I don't have to read your rubbish. Wind yourself up for all i care. Go nuts. Edited August 13, 2015 by keio6000 Link to comment
westfalen Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 i wonder what kind of job you people have that you don't have to deal with people and their occasional mistakes? the driver drives a train for a living. if he can't steel himself to the idea that at some point, for any number of reasons, his train might hit a vehicle, then he should not be in the "highly demanding" job of train driver. and the "piece of car gets under the train, derailing it" argument? sure. and you can get bubonic plague from a papercut from your printer at your office. it could happen. bubble wrap your children now! I drive trains for a living actually. I'm just going to count to ten and go on to the next post. 4 Link to comment
E6系 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Hello, Actually, both parties involved in the accident handled the situation better than members above !!! So sorry, but it is true. 8 Link to comment
velotrain Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 i wonder what kind of job you people have Just what group are you calling "you people" ? Link to comment
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