2m62 Russian locomotive model

[Kb4iuj]

Question. In the June issue of TMS No. 879 page 77. There's a body photo of a 2M62.

 

Who makes that and what scale ?

 

Thanks

[Guest keio6000]

The 2m62 is a SOVIET locomotive made in LUGANSK UKRAINE (Ukrainian SSR at the time).  Not "Russian" in the slightest any more than sean connery is english (unless you happen to have a version with russian railways livery, which would be unusual, but not impossible).

Edited July 22, 2015 by keio6000

[Railtunes]

I haven't seen the TMS photo, but Minitrix makes the M62 in N scale and have had versions lettered for DR (East Germany) and CSD (Czech) railways.

Is there an Asian connection? Yes, a number of these ended up in North Korea, some still running in the original colors of various East European railways from which they were bought when phased out in Europe. Some of them were even converted into electrics with pantographs on top!

 

- Paul Ingraham, AsiaNRail

[Pashina12]

I haven't seen the TMS photo, but Minitrix makes the M62 in N scale and have had versions lettered for DR (East Germany) and CSD (Czech) railways.

Is there an Asian connection? Yes, a number of these ended up in North Korea, some still running in the original colors of various East European railways from which they were bought when phased out in Europe. Some of them were even converted into electrics with pantographs on top!

 

- Paul Ingraham, AsiaNRail

 

NK also got 65 delivered new from the USSR, and they look fantastic in their local livery... see the attached photo of my TT scale model of #602. The North Koreans also built some very interesting unlicenced copies.

 

Another Asian connection to not forget is the former Soviet countries in central Asia. The Azerbaijan Railway also converted some of theirs into electrics.

[kvp]

I know that at least H0, TT and N scale models exist in various european liveries. There are slight variations on decorative bands, pilots, horn and light placement between eras and rail companies. Some of them got remotored and even rebuilt over the years and are still in use from Europe to Asia in both standard and russian broad gauge versions.

[Socimi]

NK also got 65 delivered new from the USSR, and they look fantastic in their local livery... see the attached photo of my TT scale model of #602. The North Koreans also built some very interesting unlicenced copies.

 

Another Asian connection to not forget is the former Soviet countries in central Asia. The Azerbaijan Railway also converted some of theirs into electrics.

 

Yes, a number of these ended up in North Korea, some still running in the original colors of various East European railways from which they were bought when phased out in Europe. Some of them were even converted into electrics with pantographs on top!

 

- Paul Ingraham, AsiaNRail

 

All the colors i've found so far:

 

Former russian M62s Unknown series. 

 

Variant 1 (used for special and tour trains)

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/429-1_Sinch_ang.jpg

 

Variant 2 - Still retains former SZD colors (cyrillic lettering also visible)

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/DPRK_M62.jpg/1280px-DPRK_M62.jpg

 

Former European (either ex-DDR, Czechoslovakia or Hungary) M62s :

 

600 series

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/615_Yodok.jpg

 

700 series

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/720_Sinuiju.jpg

 

800 series

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/639_619_Sop_o.jpg

 

Former Polish ST44 (Also classified 700 series)

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/742_Sinanju.jpg

 

8002 series "Kumsong" (Golden Star)

Unlicensed copy - only one unit ever produced, nowdays on display at the Tree Revolutions Museum)

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/diesel/DPRK_rly_exhibition2013.jpg

 

1.5 (first may - worker's day) series "Khanghaenggun" (Arduous March - refers to the economical crisis of Northern Korea in the mid-90s)

Converted M62 due to fuel shortage

http://www.railfaneurope.net/pix/ne/North_Korea/electric/1_5-08_-1_Sinsongch_on.jpg

 

Azerbaijan Railways E2M62 class

 

Red-White

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/eb/Electric_locomotive_at_Baku_Station.JPG/300px-Electric_locomotive_at_Baku_Station.JPG

 

Blue-White whit red lines

https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/97/04/29/970429ec52c755c1107bb594b94d88b4.jpg

[Pashina12]

The 600 series was built new for the DPRK in the 60s and are painted in the "basically standard" paint scheme. There's two exceptions that weren't new for DPRK - one ST44 was put into this series, and the one you mark Variant 2 in your post. There's also one painted solid green with a white stripe, and one painted solid green with a yellow stripe, like the 700s.

 

The 700 series are ex-German, ex-Polish or ex-Slovak, not Hungary. These are almost all painted green with a yellow stripe. Some of these have been repainted to blue over green. There's one ex Slovak unit that's red with a yellow stripe.

 

The 800 series are mostly ex-Russian with some ex-Polish and Slovak units here. Some of the ex-Russian ones are the DM62 that were used by the Soviet Army's Railway Rocket Corps to pull the ICBM trains. Some of these have been repainted to blue over green.

 

The Kumsong copies - there were at least 4 built. 8001 is in service out on the roads (or was, there's a photo of it from a few years ago taken near Sinuiju). 8002 has been in the Museum of the Three Revolutions since it was built. There's also two that were converted to electrics, numbers 309 and 399.

 

Edit: there are a few more paint variants. There's a version that's solid green with a white stripe - like the scheme on the 600s, replacing the blue with more green. There's a solid blue with white stripe, on an 800 series unit. There's an ex-Russian unit painted in the "standard" blue over greeen but with a Russian-style "square" stripe.

 

Also there's one unit numbered 001 which was an M62, damaged, that was rebuilt with new cabs vaguely similar to the ones on the Red Flag 6 articulated electrics.

Edited March 3, 2017 by Pashina12

[Kb4iuj]

What's interesting about the 2M62 is that it looks like a reversed engineer BR232 which the Germans used.

[Suica]

What's interesting about the 2M62 is that it looks like a reversed engineer BR232 which the Germans used.

Well that's not quite right. The DR BR 130 (DB BR 232) was basically the successor of the DR BR 120 (M62). Both were built by Luhansk Locomotive works in the Ukrainian SSR.

[kvp]

Fun fact: The type name M62 comes from the original hungarian classification. M=diesel, 6=6 powered axles, 2=3rd type. (the M61 being the GM-Nohab FP7 variant made by Kato and 30 years earlier by Piko in N)

[Suica]

It's almost been 40 years earlier. Piko's M61 was first released in 1972.

 

Also some mad mind came up with this.

[Pashina12]

Can you imagine hearing that Kolomna diesel coming up the road behind you, and then honking the horn at you? I'd probably jump out of my car...