Guest ___ Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 From a news source whose experts consist mainly of marginally educated ESL teachers who know more about Japan than the Japanese. Feel free to read the comments from the peanut gallery for that extra bonus. http://www.japantoday.com/category/national/view/tokyo-to-get-two-new-subway-lines-amid-redevelopment-boom 1 Link to comment
Guest keio6000 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Remember when the Fukutoshin line was unveiled and it was widely touted as Tokyo's "last" subway/metro? I didn't understand then why they were making such "definite" pronouncements (other than perhaps for political reasons). I still don't. I don't know about the peanut gallery, but indeed Japan is going insane with policies that encourage amalgamation of the population in Tokyo and not much else. Soon, you'll be able to buy whole towns in other parts of Japan cheaper than a flat in Tokyo. But by 2020? That's Chinese speed. Link to comment
katoftw Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Love the guy complaining about the single center ticket gates. lol. Clearly never left Tokyo before. Link to comment
Guest keio6000 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 can somebody post a link with a map of the proposed "west yamanote" and "east yamanote" routes? a search for "東山手" for example brought up nothing useful. Link to comment
Darklighter Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 But by 2020? That's Chinese speed. "Layout design and logistics planning are expected to take three years, and construction is estimated to take about seven years..." Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 can somebody post a link with a map of the proposed "west yamanote" and "east yamanote" routes? a search for "東山手" for example brought up nothing useful. http://kenplatz.nikkeibp.co.jp/article/knp/news/20140820/674069/?ST=sp Link to comment
Martijn Meerts Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 "Layout design and logistics planning are expected to take three years, and construction is estimated to take about seven years..." Faster than I can build my layout ;) Link to comment
ote-m Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 These really aren't subway lines like the Fukutoshin. Fukutoshin was the last line that was build by Tokyo Metro and these two just seem similar to the Ueno-Tokyo line, connecting or extending current lines, albeit underground. Link to comment
kvp Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The linked article seems to be about the new JR Haneda airport express, that will use most of the abandoned Tokyo freight terminal northen line, parts of existing lines and a new tunnel to the airport. But that is a JR East project and not an extension of the Tokyo metro system either. So, is there a completly different project or the writers of the original article managed to mix up JR East with Tokyo Metro? Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 (edited) Here is a more legit article from people that are less prone to watch just one news source that mainly focuses on the happenings of celebrities: http://www.asahi.com/articles/ASH7B5F07H7BUTIL02T.html found through: http://mizoinudou.blog.fc2.com/blog-entry-3477.html where the blogger speculates about this line being either a Mita or Asakusa line extention. Let's see what this will bring. Edited July 14, 2015 by Toni Babelony Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The article added the separate JR East project as filler. It's Japan Today, so the quality of, ahem, "reportage" (rather they just recycle and consolidate wire service reports) is dismal. It's honestly a junk news source, like National Enquirer or News Of the World. Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 (edited) Here's a trustworthy source: The Yomiuri Shimbun The Tokyo metropolitan government has announced plans to construct two subway lines directly linking central Tokyo and two developing destinations — the Rinkai waterfront area, where major development is under way ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics and Paralympics, and Shinagawa Station, the future terminal station of the Linear Chuo Shinkansen. The metropolitan government will ask the central government to include the two new lines in the national policy on railway construction, which the Land, Infrastructure, Transport and Tourism Ministry’s transportation policy council is to compile by the end of this fiscal year. http://the-japan-news.com/news/article/0002281531 Edited July 15, 2015 by bikkuri bahn Link to comment
bikkuri bahn Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 speculates about this line being either a Mita or Asakusa line extention. Let's see what this will bring. What I'm getting from the various articles is that it will be a Namboku Line branch. Shinagawa has poor connections to subway lines that directly serve the western portion of the inner Yamanote Loop- this is also from my personal experiences. A Namboku Line connection will help remedy that. Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 What I'm getting from the various articles is that it will be a Namboku Line branch. Shinagawa has poor connections to subway lines that directly serve the western portion of the inner Yamanote Loop- this is also from my personal experiences. A Namboku Line connection will help remedy that. I also would like to see either a Namboku or Mita line connection. The Asakusa line is quite overcrowded already, and with the 8-car extension from the current 6-car formations, this would be convenient. I think the Mita and Asakusa lines are under speculation because these are owned by the Tokyo Met. Gov., plus this is a project initiated by that same organisation. The relation with Tokyo Metro (Namboku line) is still not 'optimal' so to speak. Link to comment
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