Densha Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 (edited) After Tomytec announcing the Akita Chuō Kōtsu DeWa 3000 loco + SuHaFu 20 coach set I did some research on google. The 3.8km 1067mm Akita Chuō Kōtsu Line ran between Hachirōgata Station on the Ōu Main Line and Gojōme Station just a bit to the east. The line had four stations in total: Hachirōgata, Kawasaki, Kōkōmae and Gojōme. I don't know much about the history before electrification (and my knowledge of the Japanese language is too limited to figure out more), but the line was apparently electrified with 600V DC in 1950. The electric boxcab DeWa 3000 (so far I understand 3001-3003) locos were second hands from Meguro-Kamata Dentetsu/Tōkyō-Yokohama Dentetsu, now Tōkyu. There was also the EB110 series and I tend to lean towards the idea that they had only one of these machines: the EB111. The NaHaFu 10 and SuHaFu 20 passenger coaches were converted from JGR/JNR KiHa 41000 DMUs that had their diesel engines taken out. The freight rolling stock mainly appears to have consisted of ex-JGR/JNR freight cars: ex-Wa 1 (numbered Wa 100-200), ex-WaMu 90000 (numbered WaMu 900), ex-ToRa 30000 (numbered ToRa 300) and ex-TsuMu 1000 (numbering unknown). The single railway line Akita Chuō Kōtsu operated was entirely abolished during the summer of 1969. Now for a list of URLs with photos:http://6.fan-site.net/~haasan55/Akitachuou.htmhttp://teramatiisejosai.travel.coocan.jp/akita.htmlhttp://ameblo.jp/yywassy3/entry-11516202377.htmlhttp://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/hideki_kobayakawa/36785655.htmlhttp://satoyama.in/auto/sharyo/auto383.htmlhttp://satoyama.in/auto/sharyo/auto384.htmlhttp://rail.hobidas.com/photo/archives/2005/10/eb111.htmlhttp://www2.plala.or.jp/railphoto/gojomoku.htmhttp://umemado.blogspot.com/search/label/%E7%A7%8B%E7%94%B0%E4%B8%AD%E5%A4%AE%E4%BA%A4%E9%80%9A%E8%BB%8C%E9%81%93%E7%B7%9A For more pics google "秋田中央交通" or "秋田中央交通線". And now for another detective story... The Tomytec sets will be released in two different colour schemes. I'm still trying to figure out when the 'new' blue-red colour scheme was adapted but that is very difficult to find out with monochrome photos and the old and new liveries only differing in colour. Hopefully someone else can figure out this mystery for me. Edited August 2, 2015 by Densha Fixed image and added info 5 Link to comment
velotrain Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 Since the DeWa 3000 appears to run on the recently discussed Brill 21E truck, I ordered an extra Tomytec power unit for other projects. I can substitute it for the World Kougei chassis if the Tomytec runs better (which somehow seems likely ;-), or combine it with the Aru etched Brill 21E sideframes for who knows what. An interesting project might be replacing the plastic sides with real wood, but that would require a set of decals - anyone know if they're available? Thanks for starting the thread, Densha. 1 Link to comment
kvp Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 (edited) The trick to separate the black and white pictures is the box motor. It was solid color first. So any pictures where it doesn't have two shades is the old color, while any picture where two different gray shades is visible, it's the new color era. Considering how short was the operational timeframe of the whole railroad with electrification it might be the only repaint they had. I'm rather sure the old color was in use in 1963. ps: I know it's not fully accurate, but getting two sets, combining the cars into a full train and repainting one of the box motors for a different road might be a good idea. (i'm thinking about the classic brown paint) Edited July 10, 2015 by kvp 1 Link to comment
velotrain Posted July 15, 2015 Share Posted July 15, 2015 I felt compelled to post this photo I found of an absolutely gorgeous model, which I'm guessing is O scale due to the amazing level of detail. BTW - I just noticed that both Tomytec sets are very popular at H.S., so you might want to get your reservation(s) - for those taking kvp's suggestion - in soon. Related to kvp's suggestion, here is an image (link from him) of a preserved (but exposed to the elements) Hakone Tozan wood tram similar to the Akita Chuō Kōtsu version used for the Tomytec model. He suggested painting the second engine brown - if you do order two of the sets. Extra points if you model the peeling paint on the boards ;-) Link to comment
velotrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Considering how short was the operational timeframe of the whole railroad with electrification it might be the only repaint they had. I'm rather sure the old color was in use in 1963. Apparently there was one other repaint, with the bottom a dark blue. I can't tell if the top is a lighter red, or just the old red very faded. From the looks of things, this was the final coloring - and could have been done after the equipment was out of service. What I don't understand is Tomytec releasing the set in these colors, when there seems to be no evidence that the prototype ever used them. My thanks to Densha for originally introducing this topic. He notes that the passenger cars were originally DMU's, and I'm planning to convert one of mine into an EMU. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 The solid blue color was in use at the start of the service (visible mostly on grayscale photos). This also make the freight motors usable on city tram layouts (they were 2nd hand) and the dmu's runnable as standalone units (with a minimal headlight installation). Link to comment
ToniBabelony Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (...) the dmu's runnable as standalone units (with a minimal headlight installation). And underbodywork, like engines and so on to make these actual DMU. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 And underbodywork, like engines and so on to make these actual DMU. There are some decorations on the cars and the Tomytec motor usually fills the rest of the space between them with the real motor. (it's not pretty but practical) They were kiha 41000 dmu-s before the conversion: http://homepage3.nifty.com/EF57/r.museum/kiha41.htm Link to comment
velotrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 kvp - since you have so much knowledge (or good research skills), would you know if the "preserved" coach and steeplecab were repainted in earlier colors when taken out of service? I take it the dark blue on the engines was a transition scheme between the original brown and the red + turquoise. I see that the passenger car in the museum has yet another scheme. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 It's actually just a bit of google skill... Imho the dark blue on the car and loco that was preserved is just weathering. The red faded out, the blue darkened. (it could also be a not too accurate repaint attempt) Afaik the old photos show the single color freight motors and the red/blue paint only (both produced by Tomytec) and since the line operated for a relatively short time with the overhead, i don't think they repainted the trains more than a single time. The dark brown paint was one of the original ones and i've found the creme/blue and a reddish orange/creme/reddish orange color too. (with a different headlight position and imho this looks like a later, JNR paint) These cars were motorised, and i don't know if the first Akita color was ever used on powered cars or if it's fully accurate. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 One more picture: (i can't find one with the matching passenger car though) 1 Link to comment
velotrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Good find! Not to worry - the passenger car wasn't really matching, more like "not conflicting" ;-) Link to comment
velotrain Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 (with a different headlight position . . . ) Speaking of headlights, does anyone know of a Japanese (or elsewhere) company producing headlights at all similar to the one shown? I realize that one like this is very difficult to make working, but I'd be satisfied with cosmetic. Link to comment
kvp Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 Imho some of the ARU9 cast metal parts could be usable. Link to comment
cteno4 Posted January 6, 2016 Share Posted January 6, 2016 yes nariichi san stocks a couple of these white metal cast headlights close http://www.modeltrainplus.net/collections/aru-nine-arumo-n-scale jeff Link to comment
Densha Posted May 19, 2016 Author Share Posted May 19, 2016 Just digging up an old topic. I just discovered that Akita Chuo Kotsu actually had another type of electric loco in service. Originally used by JNR on the Usui Pass and then as a shunter by Nankai Railway, the ED404 ended up at Akita Chuo Kotsu in 1949. The locomotive was completely remodelled and renumbered into ED401. When Akita Chuo Kotsu got their hands on some ex-Tokyu DeWa 3000's, the ED401 was retired already in 1952. Sources: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84ED40%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A#.E5.8D.97.E6.B5.B7.E9.9B.BB.E6.B0.97.E9.89.84.E9.81.93.E3.83.BB.E7.A7.8B.E7.94.B0.E4.B8.AD.E5.A4.AE.E4.BA.A4.E9.80.9A https://twitter.com/JRE203kei/status/381432737782984704/ 1 Link to comment
Nick_Burman Posted May 20, 2016 Share Posted May 20, 2016 Just digging up an old topic. I just discovered that Akita Chuo Kotsu actually had another type of electric loco in service. Originally used by JNR on the Usui Pass and then as a shunter by Nankai Railway, the ED404 ended up at Akita Chuo Kotsu in 1949. The locomotive was completely remodelled and renumbered into ED401. When Akita Chuo Kotsu got their hands on some ex-Tokyu DeWa 3000's, the ED401 was retired already in 1952. Akita-Chuo-Kotsu_ED-401.jpg Sources: https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E5%9B%BD%E9%89%84ED40%E5%BD%A2%E9%9B%BB%E6%B0%97%E6%A9%9F%E9%96%A2%E8%BB%8A#.E5.8D.97.E6.B5.B7.E9.9B.BB.E6.B0.97.E9.89.84.E9.81.93.E3.83.BB.E7.A7.8B.E7.94.B0.E4.B8.AD.E5.A4.AE.E4.BA.A4.E9.80.9A https://twitter.com/JRE203kei/status/381432737782984704/ Was this one of the original German-built machines or was it from the later, Omiya-built, engines? Cheers NB Link to comment
Densha Posted May 20, 2016 Author Share Posted May 20, 2016 Hmm... the Japanese Wikipedia page on the ED40 doesn't mention about anything German, but the article does say that the ED40 were built from 1919 to 1923 in Omiya to support the existing fleet of EC40. The EC40 seems to be built in 1911 by AEG in Germany. So in short, the ED40 that ended up at Akita Chuo Kotsu should be Omiya-built, because the whole ED40 series seems to have been built in Omiya. This page also has a lot of information and diagrams on both locos: http://ktymtskz.my.coocan.jp/yuge/hidaka5.htm Link to comment
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