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I can’t wait. My son lit up when he saw the junctions moving by just clicking on the screen version of the tracks. He’s as wide-eyed about the automation as he was about the trains themselves when he was little. I have to say, it’s bringing out the kid in me too!

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So, after a long wait the floor guys finally came back and finished the job. I'm quite happy with it. Next step will be to put the legs on the tables and bolt them together. I may alter the length of the setup a bit. Originally I made room for a shelf rack to store my trains. I'll probably end up making a shelf on the back wall of the adjacent room instead for train storage. So I may need to make a short bridging segment.

 

I really need to finish with a small Raspberry Pi project before I get to this though. I also need to think about furniture for the room.

 

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Modules roughly in place.

 

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The wall on the right is where I was planning on storing trains in shelving units. But I've changed my mind. I'll leave it roughly as it is here.

 

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The pink foam sheets mostly protected from the cats. I'll probably use this wall for train storage.

 

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This is how the workroom looks now. Though there's a lot of upstairs that needs to be stored down here.

 

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The new room looks great Gavin, going for a finished look before building the layout was the right way to go.

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JR 500系

I'm so jealous! The new room or mancave looks like a great way to spend an entire weekend!!! Cant wait to see the layout beiing done up! 

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It's time to put the legs on these things. I'll pick up some bolts this week and do the assembly next time I have a weekend off call. Still in two minds about whether to use the same bolts. The current prototype is very sturdy but the bolts are probably overkill.

 

1. I think I'll use carriage bolts again. They simplify assembly (If placed with care) and have an nice low profile.

2. I could probably go one size down on the bolts. The current ones are 9/16.

3. It's possible I could use three bolts only per leg. But likely I'll stick with four. Haven't decided.

4. I won't use those awful nuts with the plastic bits inside to make them tighter. I'll just use the plain metal nuts.

 

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Thanks VJM. That decides it. I'll stick to this pattern, except for using plain metal nuts. Your train table is an inspiration to me btw!!

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I finally got around to putting the legs on the tables. The first table took a long time because I was using an all purpose drill bit that took forever to go through the 3x3 inch legs. After the first table, I went and  got a more aggressive drill bit. I also got a pair of giant clamps that were perfect for the job. Tables 3, 4, 5, and 6 went very fast. Fortunately everything came together well with no problems.

 

Bolt locations marked. I just took the positions exactly from the prototype table.

 

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Countersinks for the Carriage bolts.

 

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These are the giant clamps.

 

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The closest drill bit is the one that took forever. The one next to it went through the wood like butter. I could have used the "spade head" bit next to that, but I didn't know what it was at the time. I bought it originally thinking it was what I needed to counter sink. The final bit is for countersinking. Also aggressive and fast.

 

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A very basic but quite sturdy construct.

 

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I have one last bit of building to do. The original design took into account a set of shelf racks that used to live against the wall on the right. The idea was to store my train collection there. But I've changed my mind. I'm going to put shelves against one of the walls in the adjacent room-half for the trains.

 

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The table in front is in the approximate final position. There'll be a 2 foot walkway all around the train table. So the back stretch of the table is about 3 feet short. I'm planning on making a final 3 foot segment as a hanging segment. ie. it won't have legs but will bolt on between two of the current tables.

 

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Oh wow... I'm just green with envy Gavin! Great work on the carpentry! I can see the vast space created is superb for a really nice long layout! Judging from the length, i guess running a full 16 car consist is no longer a dream! 

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4 minutes ago, JR 500系 said:

Oh wow... I'm just green with envy Gavin! Great work on the carpentry! I can see the vast space created is superb for a really nice long layout! Judging from the length, i guess running a full 16 car consist is no longer a dream! 

 

Thanks. It's fairly long but even on this a 16 car consist is ridiculously large. I'll probably run trains around a 10-12 car length. Right now I'm just looking forward to being just able to run any train!!

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That's really nice Gavin! Although I love my compact layout, I could do with a bit more space.

Do you have a track plan already? Sorry, maybe you told us already but I lost track of the progress.

 

Marc

 

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8 hours ago, Kamome442 said:

Fantastic work Gavin, those tables look spot on. I look forward to seeing this one taking taking shape. Oh to have a train room as good as this!

 

Thanks. My progress will be a lot slower than yours. I'm definitely more the tortoise than the hare.

 

10 hours ago, Madsing said:

That's really nice Gavin! Although I love my compact layout, I could do with a bit more space.

Do you have a track plan already? Sorry, maybe you told us already but I lost track of the progress.

 

Marc

 

 

Thanks. I do have a general plan. I worked on it a few months ago. I've let it settle now for a while so I can go back to it with fresh eyes. Likely it'll change a fair bit before I settle on it. Your track plan is amazing. I was thinking about it recently. You've used every inch very cleverly and it doesn't have a small feel when looking at it. I think one of the challenges of a mid size layout is to not get lazy. It's easy to make a boring plan as you don't have to work hard to make things fit. I'll show you what I have in mind so far.

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One of the main ideas is to have two main levels, and a hidden storage. The storage yard will allow me to automated different trains entering and leaving the layout. The idea about the two levels is that one line will be ground level one the "west" side and will be an elevated line on the "east" side. Likewise one line will be ground level suburban line one the east, and an underground/subway on the west side. They'll meet in the middle at the station. I'm hoping to have an above ground and subway elements to the station. That part is beyond my ability at the moment. I'll have to develop some new skills for it.

 

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There'll be a mountain on the west end. It has a couple of purposes. It will hide the hidden storage area. It will house a "visible tunnel" I made a few years ago and want to re-use, and it will break up the loop and make it less obvious (I hope).

 

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This is a basic sketch of how it might all come together. The Orange area is a container yard, with maybe a Sawaga depot. The east end is the least definite. In this sketch I was playing with "hiding" the loop but having it go through a peninsula rock. I also thought of making a small shipping area, or fishing village. I'm really not sure.

 

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I want to break up some of these right angles and parallel lines. I also have a little tram line that I want to fit somewhere.

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Gavin,

As you have quite a bit of space to play with, are you sure you don't want to ease some of the visible curves. To my mind nothing beats watching a train passing through a long realistic curve...

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2 hours ago, ianlaw said:

Gavin,

As you have quite a bit of space to play with, are you sure you don't want to ease some of the visible curves. To my mind nothing beats watching a train passing through a long realistic curve...

 

Thanks. I try to not be sure about anything. In general I cultivate a sense of doubt - that something else may be the case. I find that keeps the door to learning open. Specifically with model trains, I'm no expert at all. The art of layout building is mostly unknown to me, and a lot of what I think I know, is I'm sure mistaken.

 

I agree with you about how good a long realistic curve looks. I'd like to incorporate long lazy curves when possible. What I'd like to avoid is being able to see the track taking a full 180 turn and passing it's own tail going in the opposite direction. I find that's one thing that can burst the realness illusion.

 

The layout is very long in it's main section, but the end tables are only 4 feet wide, which is a very common dimension to deal with. It will be a challenge on this layout as much as on any other. Making them deeper would have avoided this problem, but at the cost of creating spaces that can't easily be reached. I have the space but convenience became a constraint. For now I'm happy with this compromise. It will be a long time before my modelling skill develop to the point were this will be the weakest point. I am, however making all my modelling modular and removable, so that reforming the base area should be possible in the future.

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