Decoder installing without soldering ??????

[domino]

Hey all.

 

Im planning to convert to DCC in the future, and have ,as some may say ,a stupid question , in order to maybe someday return to DC I was wondering hypothetically/theoretically if it is possible to glue/hot glue and/or tape the decoder in place instead of soldering it ?? 

 

Brian

domino

[Martijn Meerts]

The only way to install a decoder without soldering would be to use drop-in decoders. Unfortunately, drop-in decoders for Japanese trains aren't very common.

[alpineaustralia]

All of the following trains will accept Plug n' Play decoders that do not "need" to be soldered (although often the contac that the decoder has is not very reliable and so soldering becomes a solution for it to work properly):

 

Item No.                                Model              Decoder

3020-7, 3038                              EF58              Digitrax DN163KOa

                                            DF200            Digitrax DN163KOa

                                            EF60              Digitrax DN163KOa

                                            EF64-0            Digitrax DN163KOa

3024                                          EF64-1000      Digitrax DN163KOa

3032-1, 3019-6, 3019-8, 3019-9,    EF65              Digitrax DN163KOa

3036-1                                        EF200              Digitrax DN163KOa

3034, 3034-3                                EF210              Digitrax DN163KOa

                                              ED75              Digitrax DN163KOa

3021-1, 3021-4,                            EF81                Digitrax DN163KOa

3037-1                                        EH500              Digitrax DN163KOa

10-289                                        101-series          EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-296, 10-297                            209-500 series    EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-261, 10-262                            E231-500 series    EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-520, 10-521                            E231 series          EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-551, 10-552, 10-553                E231 series          EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-541, 10-542                            E233 series          EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-287                                      321-series            EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-536, 10-537                            223 series            EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-525, 10-526, 10-280                E531 series          EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-498                                      731                    EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-547, 10-548, 10-549                N700                  EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-278, 10-279                          E2                      EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-221                                      E3                      EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-292, 10-293                          E4                      EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-295, 10-533                          10100                  EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-534, 10-535                          44 (cars)              EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-499                                      201                      EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

10-550                                      82                      EM13 (10-351), FL12(10-352), FR11(10-353)

[domino]

Hey Martijn, maybe you would like to visit me here in Denmark and fix all my trains by solder decoder in all of them, i see that you have some experience with that

 

Brian

domino

[Martijn Meerts]

Hey Martijn, maybe you would like to visit me here in Denmark and fix all my trains by solder decoder in all of them, i see that you have some experience with that

 

Brian

domino

 

I've installed a few decoders, but not all of them went entirely like they should. Some loco's already have their 3rd decoder because I fried the first 2.

 

I wouldn't mind installing decoders for others, but the problem is that if something goes wrong, I need to someone make up for that. If a decoder gets fried, it's no problem, I can just get a new one. However, there are (small) chances that the train itself gets ruined, and those are a bit more difficult to replace, especially the special models.

[domino]

ok then,just checking, i will try it my self 

 

domino

[Bernard]

Hey Martijn, maybe you would like to visit me here in Denmark and fix all my trains by solder decoder in all of them, i see that you have some experience with that

 

Brian

domino

 

I've installed a few decoders, but not all of them went entirely like they should. Some loco's already have their 3rd decoder because I fried the first 2.

 

I wouldn't mind installing decoders for others, but the problem is that if something goes wrong, I need to someone make up for that. If a decoder gets fried, it's no problem, I can just get a new one. However, there are (small) chances that the train itself gets ruined, and those are a bit more difficult to replace, especially the special models.

 

Martijn - You are so modest! Brian take a look at some of his decoder installs, not only do you not see the decoder but he paints the wires so they're not visible to the naked eye. But I do understand your concerns Marti I wished the guy at my LHS installed decoders like you do.

[domino]

I did look at his installations, that is why i asked him to come to Denmark and help me 

 

domino

[Martijn Meerts]

After I'm done moving and have set up a "work station" for my own trains, I'll happily help out others with installs and possibly repairs. But I won't/can't take full responsibility if something should go wrong.

 

The chance of something going badly wrong isn't all that big though ;)